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re: Justin Verlander says MLB is juicing the baseball
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:07 am to Rabbs and QStick
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:07 am to Rabbs and QStick
Meh, Verlander is only crying this year and that stat proves it.
You’re melting about your stat because you cherry picked years. Idc about three years ago when Verlander wasn’t even in Houston.
You’re melting about your stat because you cherry picked years. Idc about three years ago when Verlander wasn’t even in Houston.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:09 am
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:12 am to tduecen
Verlander entered MLB talking about the HOF.
The guy is motivated about being an all time great and has been a student of the game. He knows its history and wants to be a part of it. Takes pride in what he's doing, and records mean something to him.
The same way steroids ruined some of those records and lifetime achievements, the juiced ball has done the same. It's about the integrity of the game, it's a religion for many.
Prior to Babe Ruth, 9 HRs led the league. He made owners realize the value of the HR, and the ball was adjusted accordingly. I'm thankful that happened back then, but I don't see where it's necessary at this point in the game.
College baseball has been through this with the bats, the balls, the ballparks. Look at Omaha just a few years ago. MLB needs to find a balance. The core is too elastic, or the seams are not raised enough right now.
The guy is motivated about being an all time great and has been a student of the game. He knows its history and wants to be a part of it. Takes pride in what he's doing, and records mean something to him.
The same way steroids ruined some of those records and lifetime achievements, the juiced ball has done the same. It's about the integrity of the game, it's a religion for many.
Prior to Babe Ruth, 9 HRs led the league. He made owners realize the value of the HR, and the ball was adjusted accordingly. I'm thankful that happened back then, but I don't see where it's necessary at this point in the game.
College baseball has been through this with the bats, the balls, the ballparks. Look at Omaha just a few years ago. MLB needs to find a balance. The core is too elastic, or the seams are not raised enough right now.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:31 am to McCaigBro69
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Mike Minor thus far in 2019 has a career best 0.9 HR/9.
AND he pitches in one of the most hitter-friendly parks in baseball. So he figured out how to change his style.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:35 am to Rabbs and QStick
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This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:38 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:43 am to McCaigBro69
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You’re melting about your stat because you cherry picked years
I'm not melting at all. I think it's funny you thinking picking the last 3 years are "cherry picking". I was just pointing out you're stupid for calling Minute Maid a little league park, when you probably need to look in mirror.
ETA: I know you said you don't care when Verlander wasn't there, but Astros were not a good pitching team in 2016 and still had less homers at Minute Maid than they did in Arlington.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:45 am to Rabbs and QStick
Prior 3 years the Astros were higher, sooooooooooooo.... Seems a wash to me
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:46 am to Cregg
Well, they cracked down on juicing the players. Juice has to go somewhere.
That said, Justin needs to quit his whining. Everyone is throwing the same baseballs. 90% of the butts in the seats want to see home runs, not strikeouts and small ball.
That said, Justin needs to quit his whining. Everyone is throwing the same baseballs. 90% of the butts in the seats want to see home runs, not strikeouts and small ball.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:47 am to wahoocs
It is like if the NBA added a new rim and everybody across the league started having higher shooting percentages. I think someone like Alex Bregman is a great example of how bad the balls are juiced. Bregman is a great player but he’s gonna hit over 40 and last night had trouble hitting the ball over the high wall. I’m a Braves fan and Swanson is gonna hit over 30 and I honestly wonder how many of his first row homers get caught at the wall without the juiced balls. The fact is warning track fly balls in the past are becoming HRs. If they continue to use the juiced balls someone like Acuna who has 47 HRs and still 6 months from turning 22 has a chance at hitting 200 HRs before turning 25.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:29 am to rebel of fortune
I think they'll have the sense to make a correction.
Introduce a new ball in the Spring, or finish with one in the minors.
Remember when blisters were a huge problem for pitchers? I can't remember the last blister I even heard about.
Introduce a new ball in the Spring, or finish with one in the minors.
Remember when blisters were a huge problem for pitchers? I can't remember the last blister I even heard about.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:18 pm to wahoocs
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Rob Manfred on Justin Verlander's comments: "I'm not going to respond specifically. I'm going to stand by what I said. What we need to be on the baseball issue is transparent and forward-looking
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Rob Manfred: "Baseball has done nothing or given no direction for an alteration in the baseball ... There has been no intentional alteration in the manufacturing process."
Rob Manfred:
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:29 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Opponents have a. 190 avg off JV and he's given up 26 dingers.
Sounds like he served up 26 bad pitches
Maddux and Pedro were dealing when the batters were juiced
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:33 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
It defies logic certainly, but still possible in and of itself.
Many other stats involving teams and league can't be written off so well.
Maddux and Pedro had entirely different strike zones to work with, too. Both were amongst the best still, no doubt.
Many other stats involving teams and league can't be written off so well.
Maddux and Pedro had entirely different strike zones to work with, too. Both were amongst the best still, no doubt.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:36 pm to wahoocs
Today’s players are bigger and stronger, have better training, diet, practice and drills, etc
If they aren’t hitting a bunch of front footed, one handed bombs off of him, he needs to STFU
If they aren’t hitting a bunch of front footed, one handed bombs off of him, he needs to STFU
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:09 pm to Boudreaux35
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90% of the butts in the seats want to see home runs, not strikeouts and small ball.
Home runs and strikeouts go together like peas and carrots.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:16 pm to Speedy G
Super ‘70’s Sports (Twitter account):
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I don’t appreciate MLB fricking with the baseballs. We’re creating a generation of slack-jawed morons who just wait around for homers with their thumbs up their butts. And, yes, you can kindly get off my goddamn lawn as well.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 5:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Why does it need to be a conspiracy? MLB wanted to give a boost to offense
You KNOW this how?
Not a conspiracy but then you go on to qoute somebody who believes MLB is hiding eveidence that the balls are in fact juiced
LMFAO! but no conspiracy,right?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:42 pm to CottonWasKing
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I don’t care that the league changed the balls. I care that they did it in secret and are now lying about it.
Good Lord,why would the league try to hide this? I also heard the same thing last year.
Show me the eveidence the ball has been altered beyond the tin foil hat theories.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:44 pm to RD Dawg
I mean they have done studies on it the ball IS different. The only question is who ordered the code red
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:54 pm to Adam Banks
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mean they have done studies on it the ball IS different
No it isn't.
This quote is from a study from last year.
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But now, good news. A committee of experts and scientists has released a study on MLB’s behalf about the home run spike, confirming the balls are flying farther thanks to better carry and reduced drag. The downside is that this crack team of scientists still has no definitive answer as to why balls are doing that
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:54 pm to RD Dawg
The athletic (paysite) has an astrophysicist who analyzed the 2019 ball to the 2017 and 2018 ball and it is different
If you have to ask you cant afford it.
If you have to ask you cant afford it.
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