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re: Jaylen Brown traded to the 76ers for Paul George and picks

Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:07 pm to
Lmao Simmons is going to be fricking seething. He was already on the fence about moving Brown in a package for Giannis. I cannot imagine his reaction in real time to the return being Paul George

Too bad Russillo won’t be there to push his buttons
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:23 pm to
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I think the next contract was the biggest driver. Both would've been like 75 apiece. The problem is it was handled so sloppy by him and them it negated the advantage they should've gotten from selling early.


JB has a reputation as a very smart, very intense, very loyal pro with a demanding nature

I think his accomplishments caused his ego to explode and that ego coupled with his demanding style became too much to bear for the money he would be seeking.

His TWITCH stream comments really screwed up his leverage and now he is a 76er

we will see how that turns out for him
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:58 pm to


pretty good breakdown from the Celtics perspective
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:18 am to
I'm not on Instagram so I have no way of knowing it this is true, but I saw on Reddit that Brad Stevens deleted his account.
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:20 am to
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After Jaylen Brown led them to a top 4 seed in the playoffs. They immediately trade him for an often injured way past his prime 36 year old. I truly don't understand the minds of NBA Gms sometimes.


Jaylen Brown analytically is way overpaid. He lucked out in 2023 making all NBA because several better players didn’t meet the 65 game threshold. That qualified him for a supermax contract. This summer he is eligible for a supermax extension because he made all NBA with Tatum being out. He’s not worth the money. DARKO (NBA analytics algorithm) has him as a $40 million dollar player yet he’s poised to make $57, $61, and $65 million the next 3 seasons. Once he inks that supermax extension he’ll tack on $70 million for each of those years.

This was a salary dump to gain George’s contract which becomes an expiring next summer.

The Cs will go after another big time player (or players) in the summer of 2027 while the 76ers will be on the hook for Jaylen Brown’s supermax for 5 seasons.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 11:24 am
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:00 pm to
Yeah bill real mad

Wanted trey murphy bad

Instead gets PGpoopoo

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Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Jaylen Brown analytically is way overpaid. He lucked out in 2023 making all NBA because several better players didn’t meet the 65 game threshold. That qualified him for a supermax contract. This summer he is eligible for a supermax extension because he made all NBA with Tatum being out. He’s not worth the money. DARKO (NBA analytics algorithm) has him as a $40 million dollar player yet he’s poised to make $57, $61, and $65 million the next 3 seasons. Once he inks that supermax extension he’ll tack on $70 million for each of those years. This was a salary dump to gain George’s contract which becomes an expiring next summer. The Cs will go after another big time player (or players) in the summer of 2027 while the 76ers will be on the hook for Jaylen Brown’s supermax for 5 seasons.


this is a good summary of the AM Hoops take as well

Stevens realized that the ‘23 Celtics championship was the last of an era that no longer exist. You have to adjust to the apron rules or you are crippled. This is a move towards revamping the roster into the new rules governing salary cap. I hate it, but I understand it.

We also don’t know what Brown was saying behind the scenes, I would imagine it was pretty pointed coming from his agent to the team.

weirdly the odds for the Celtics only fell from 6 to 1 before the trade to 11 to 1 for NBA champions next season.
The Sixers odds improved from +5500 to +2200
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted by nosaj
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:13 pm to
All of that can be true, and it’s still an awful return. I agree that his contract is abysmal, and he’s overrated, but he’s worth more than Paul George and 2 first round picks lol
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Stevens realized that the 23 Celtics championship was the last of an era that no longer exist. You have to adjust to the apron rules or you are crippled. This is a move towards revamping the roster into the new rules, governing salary cap. I hate it, but I understand it.


Yep. This is a long term move to make the Cs a championship contender again with some short term pain for 1 season. Even with losing Jaylen they’ll still be a competitive playoff team with Mitchell Robinson added to the fold.

If they ink Jaylen to the supermax extension this summer the next half decade would’ve handcuffed the team. You can’t do it in the second apron era. That’s why no team wanted to give the Cs a real return for him. You can’t give that type of money to a player that’s not producing from an analytics/efficiency standpoint.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:20 pm to
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All of that can be true, and it’s still an awful return. I agree that his contract is abysmal, and he’s overrated, but he’s worth more than Paul George and 2 first round picks lol


No doubt it’s an awful return. That’s the price to pay for dumping Jaylen on this supermax.

Had he not made all NBA in 2023 and been on a standard 4 year $40million/year max contract the return would’ve been much better or the Cs wouldn’t have wanted to trade him at all.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:22 pm to
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All of that can be true, and it’s still an awful return. I agree that his contract is abysmal, and he’s overrated, but he’s worth more than Paul George and 2 first round picks lol


you can thank Jaylen Brown for that. He tanked his own value when he went on twitch and acted the fool. There was no reason to say what he said. When he doubled and triple down on it as he said, he made it even worse.

so the prospects for the Celtics were bring back a disgruntled, very vocal, very demanding player or take the poo poo platter and move on. There was no decent market out there because everyone knew the Celtics needed to move him and people just don’t want Jaylen Brown on their team at a premium. There are very few teams that are willing to pay the money he is owed now and the money he is owed next year and the $71mm he is going to demand next summer
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:33 pm to
SI review of trade

It’s baffling that the Celtics settled for this and even more so that they’re in this position in the first place. They didn’t have to go after Antetokounmpo. They clearly shouldn’t have, if this was going to be the end result. This is a comically underwhelming package for a star talent and a trade that makes the team several measures worse in the short term. Potentially burning a year of Tatum’s prime because Stevens didn’t get the Giannis deal done and had to trade Brown anyway is an absolute disaster for Boston.

Perhaps the Celtics have pivots planned. But there is no getting around the fact that Boston traded Brown for pennies on the dollar after a career season. There's a very real chance this goes down as one of the worst trades in modern NBA history. The Celtics got no worthwhile assets, no talented young players and didn’t even clear cap space with two years remaining on George’s max contract. Even if things were worse behind the scenes than we realized with Brown you just cannot accept that poor of a package for a premium player. Even the Mavericks got Anthony Davis in the Luka trade
This is nothing less than a catastrophic move, and one Boston only had to make because Stevens tried and failed to land Antetokounmpo. What a mess.

Grade: F

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Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Jaylen Brown analytically is way overpaid. He lucked out in 2023 making all NBA because several better players didn’t meet the 65 game threshold. That qualified him for a supermax contract. This summer he is eligible for a supermax extension because he made all NBA with Tatum being out.

This is where the Brown discourse gets weird. He made 2nd team All-NBA in '23. It wasn't like he was the last guy on because they were fishing for scraps. There was literally 5 players with less votes. The guys that made 1st or 2nd team the previous year that missed because of the 65 game rule were KD(only 47 games played), Booker(53 games played), Ja(9 games played). You're not making all-NBA with that many games missed even if it wasn't a rule. Derozan made 2nd team the previous year then got 2 votes total in '23.

As for this year, saying he just made all-NBA because Tatum was out is a pretty negative retelling of him leading them to a 3 seed and finishing 6th in MVP voting when his two top teammates were Derrick White(in a down year) and Payton Pritchard.
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:23 pm to
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This is where the Brown discourse gets weird. He made 2nd team All-NBA in '23. It wasn't like he was the last guy on because they were fishing for scraps. There was literally 5 players with less votes. The guys that made 1st or 2nd team the previous year that missed because of the 65 game rule were KD(only 47 games played), Booker(53 games played), Ja(9 games played). You're not making all-NBA with that many games missed even if it wasn't a rule. Derozan made 2nd team the previous year then got 2 votes total in '23. As for this year, saying he just made all-NBA because Tatum was out is a pretty negative retelling of him leading them to a 3 seed and finishing 6th in MVP voting when his two top teammates were Derrick White(in a down year) and Payton Pritchard.


I don’t remember all the details but he did slide into 2nd team by default because of injuries and a few guys not qualifying for the new 65 game rule. He’s not a 2nd team All NBA caliber player. He’s not third team caliber either.

I’m saying he likely doesn’t make all NBA this year if Tatum plays because Tatum is a better player and would’ve taken a ton of Jaylen’s usage away.

The Cs got put in a tough spot with the timing of his All NBA years.

Jaylen is a top 20-25 range player. He doesn’t produce at a supermax level. All of the analytics back that up.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 8:26 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:31 pm to
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I don’t remember all the details but he did slide into 2nd team by default because of injuries and a few guys not qualifying for the new 65 game rule

Read my post and be refreshed on the details.

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. He’s not third team caliber either.


You don't think he's the same caliber of player as Jalen Duran, Jalen Johnson, Domantas Sabonis, or Julius Randle?
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All of the analytics back it up.

Watch a fricking game, nerd.
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
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Read my post and be refreshed on the details.


Jaylen made the all NBA team as a forward. You listed Devin Booker and Ja. They are in the guard category. It was guys like Durant, Kawhi, Jaren Jackson Jr, etc. who missed the 65 game cutoff. I don’t remember who all else but it was him jumping several guys that he wasn’t as good as.

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You don't think he's the same caliber of player as Jalen Duran, Jalen Johnson, Domantas Sabonis, or Julius Randle? quote: All of the analytics back it up. Watch a fricking game, nerd.


In today’s NBA with the second apron you CANNOT have a supermax player who doesn’t contribute from an analytics standpoint like a true top 10-15 NBA player.

Jaylen gets skewered in every advanced analytic category. That’s why no team ponied up a reasonable offer for him. What the Cs got was horrific offer for a reason.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:26 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:52 pm to
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It was guys like Durant, Kawhi, Jaren Jackson Jr, etc. who missed the 65 game cutoff

Durant played 47 games. Kawhi played 52. You aren't making all-NBA if you miss that many games even if the rule never existed. JJJ has never made all-NBA so him potentially blocking Brown's candidacy matters as much as like Jaxson Hayes.
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In today’s NBA with the second apron you CANNOT have a supermax player

Just say you can not have two guys making 70 million. It's a much more reasonable explanation than this "actually Derrick White despite shooting 39% this year was the best player on the team" big brain defense that they're trying.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:55 pm
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:28 pm to
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You can’t give that type of money to a player that’s not producing from an analytics/efficiency standpoint.


The Sixers just did and will kick the Celtics arse for the next 3-4 years.
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