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re: James Harden scored on a nice slam dunk last night but the refs didn't count it (video)
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:11 am to Pelicanus
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:11 am to Pelicanus
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They stated Dantoni waited too long.
I thought he DID challenge the call. They just didn't allow his challenge. Then when they realized that he was right, they said he waited too long.
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:13 am to shel311
He did not wait too long.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:24 am to Pelicanus
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He did not wait too long.
Did you not read the explanation in the OP
quote:
It is a reviewable matter, but you have a window of 30 seconds to challenge the play during the timeout that he had and while they were protesting the call, trying to get clarification of it, that window passed
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:27 am to GeauxAggie972
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while they were protesting the call, trying to get clarification of it
Seems to me that that, in and of itself, is challenging the call.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:28 am to Pelicanus
quote:I didn't watch the game, what is this based on?
He did not wait too long.
1 side says they did it in time, the other says they did not.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:29 am to GetCocky11
utterly embarrassing. wow. I never been more disappointed in the rockets franchise. Protesting and ref blaming go hand in hand to me and I can never get on board with either one.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:29 am to SSpaniel
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Seems to me that that, in and of itself, is challenging the call.
Arguing a call and throwing the red flag (I know NFL reference but still) are two different things
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:38 am to GeauxAggie972
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Arguing a call and throwing the red flag (I know NFL reference but still) are two different things
But you have to know WHY a call was made before you can protest it, right?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:52 am to CypressTrout10
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Referees across all sports at all levels have become a joke. But they cry when coaches argue with them, and post facebook videos of them walking off the field when someone calls them short, but they deserve every bit of criticism they get.
Are you really trying to compare a little league baseball ump that makes maybe $25 a game to NBA refs? I agree that officials at all levels are not held accountable for bad calls but this is just a stupid take. Count me in the group that would not officiate kid's sports because of the abuse from parents and coaches that think their kid isn't going to be offered a D1 scholarship because of a little league official missing a call.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 9:55 am to shel311
quote:Actually, the refs admit he was asking about the call in the window
1 side says they did it in time, the other says they did not.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
quote:This is disingenuous on D'antoni's part IMO.
Actually, the refs admit he was asking about the call in the window
The call was no basket, if he felt it went in, then challenge. What do you need to clarify, they said no basket? That's all you need to know, as a coach if you know you have a 30 second window, and you know it went it and you know the ref said you do not get 2 points, that is more than enough information needed to challenge within the 30 second window.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:04 am to shel311
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This is disingenuous on D'antoni's part IMO.
The call was no basket, if he felt it went in, then challenge. What do you need to clarify, they said no basket? That's all you need to know, as a coach if you know you have a 30 second window, and you know it went it and you know the ref said you do not get 2 points, that is more than enough information needed to challenge within the 30 second window.
You dont think maybe he was asking what the call exactly was to find out if in fact it was reviewable? This is absolutely fricking retarded on the refs part
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
He had enough info to challenge IMO.
He thought the ball went in, his team did not get 2 points.
He thought the ball went in, his team did not get 2 points.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:09 am to Pelicanus
quote:that's is a massive overreaction. get a grip. furthermore, it's not the refs fault that the window to review is so narrow.
All the referees involved should be suspended 25 games.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:10 am to shel311
quote:This is so you
He had enough info to challenge IMO.
He thought the ball went in, his team did not get 2 points.
Watch the video, read the own refs words on what happened. Houston immediately starts arguing and discussing the call with the ref. There is no fricking challenge flag in basketball, you challenge a play by discussing it with the ref. The 30 second window for anyone with common sense would be met as long as the coach starts the dialogue in this window. The fact this braindead ref is saying it was "challenged too later" (thats his own words
), while houston is immediately arguing the call with him, is something only you and maybe slackster could support This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:11 am to MickeyLikesDags21
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I heard on the radio this morning that Houston requested the NBA have a "redo."
Sure, right after they redo all of those games where Harden got the refs to call bullshite fouls.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
quote:Me being right IS so me, nailed it!!!
This is so you
quote:Yes they did. Why were they arguing again? Harden dunked the ball, why exactly would D'antoni argue Harden dunking a ball and getting the usual 2 points for dunking a ball?
Houston immediately starts arguing and discussing the call with the ref.
quote:I'm aware
There is no fricking challenge flag in basketball
quote:What? They may have some specific, designated way to do it but you challenge a play by saying probably something along the lines of "Challenge that play" not by just "discussing" it with the ref.
you challenge a play by discussing it with the ref.
quote:Why were they arguing?
while houston is immediately arguing the call with him
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:27 am to LittleRockHog501
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It was the heat vs hawks. Shaq got awarded a 6th foul he didn't have.
Yes but that wasn't replayed b/c the refs blew a call. The Atlanta in house stat keeper screwed up and gave Shaq an extra foul. The last 51 second were replayed because the error was on Atlanta's staff and it aided them in the win. It was also the second time that season the Atlanta stat crew had fricked up so most thought the NBA was sending teams a message to make sure their stat crews had their shite together.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:28 am to Dr RC
quote:Is there a rule on how late in the game it can be for a replay? That was 51 seconds, the Rockets are asking for the last 7 minutes to be replayed if they can't get the W, which is absurd.
Yes but that wasn't replayed b/c the refs blew a call. The Atlanta in house stat keeper screwed up and gave Shaq an extra foul. The last 51 second were replayed because the error was on Atlanta's staff and it aided them in the win. It was also the second time that season the Atlanta stat crew had fricked up so most thought the NBA was sending teams a message to make sure their stat crews had their shite together.
What if the egregious error occurs midway through the 1st quarter, is there a rule against restarting that early?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:32 am to shel311
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Why were they arguing?
Probably Harden dunking the ball and not getting 2 points for it, don't you think?
"He dunked it. Where's the point?"
"Ball came back through. Basket interference."
"No, it didn't."
"OK, then it was goaltending on Harden."
"No, it wasn't. I challenge the call."
"Sorry, your time is up. You can't."
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