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re: Is the 2019 LSU team better than the 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska teams?

Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95114 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:19 pm to
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But idiot ESPN keeps saying it's because they scored more points than any AP Champ since 1936.

They played fricking 15 games, most AP champs played 10-12 throughout all of history.
Umm, you know they have this thing called Points Per Game right?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Umm, you know they have this thing called Points Per Game right?


but that's not right
2013 FSU scored 51.6 PPG
Posted by SoulBrotha91
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2019
559 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Is the 2019 LSU team better than the 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska teams?


What do you mean "are they better?" Good Power 5 college football teams playing today will logically, naturally, and athletically be superior to those playing 20-25 years ago due to many factors. If we're comparing the eras and dominance relating to that particular era, I don't think a team on this earth could touch what Miami was doing in 2001 with all that legendary talent, it was a nuclear absurdity. 1995 Nebraska set the gold standard with their dominant play on both sides of the ball.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95114 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:40 pm to
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but that's not right
2013 FSU scored 51.6 PPG

But they're gay
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:41 pm to
It's an impossible question to answer.

But to be in the conversation is fricking awesome.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:42 pm to
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But they're gay



clearly they aren't.... I mean Jameis Winston was their QB
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3967 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Umm, you know they have this thing called Points Per Game right?


I’ll play.

1995 Nebraska
53.7 ppg
38.6 avg margin of victory

2019 LSU
47.3 ppg
26.2 avg margin of victory
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202829 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:47 pm to
Here ya go.....

1971 Nebraska
1972 USC
1995 Nebraska
2001 Miami
2019 LSU
2005 USC
2012 Bama
1979 USC
1979 bama
1983 Miami
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Stats say no
The stats also said the Clemson defense would slow down the LSU offense last night. . . .

Just sayin'
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68183 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:53 pm to
How many top 10 opponents did they play? Were they still playing Pacific?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:00 pm to
Results say they played 4 top 10 teams (8 K State, 7 Colorado, 10 Kansas, 2 Florida).

Other games were against Okie State, Michigan State (Saban), Arizona State, Pacific, Wazzu, Mizzou, and Oklahoma.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:11 pm to
Nebraska 95 whooped everyone’s arse in a fashion never seen before or since in the Poll Era.

25 players on that Miami team spent multiple seasons as STARTERS on NFL teams. Over half of the 85 scholarship players spent time on a NFL roster.

LSU had a phenomenal season but the answer is a clear no.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:13 pm to
LSU opponents won...

The ACC
The Big 12
The SEC East
The Orange Bowl
The Fiesta Bowl
The Sugar Bowl
The Citrus Bowl
The Alamo Bowl
The Texas Bowl



Pretty damned impressive IMO
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42505 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:21 pm to
That Nebraska team mauled people.
I remember watching LSU and Nebraska that year and wondered if LSU would ever be on that level.

Miami had a ton of NFL talent on that roster, not sure LSU can duplicate it from a NFL standpoint but this LSU schedule was light years better than what Miami played that year in the Big East

I still think LSU roster in 2011 might have been the most talented except they did not have a QB anywhere near Burrow. The NFL will judge the talent on this team compared to 2011 over time.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
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LSU had a phenomenal season but the answer is a clear no


Certainly that Nebraska team was dominant and a strong argument can be made they were the best team in history (or at least recent history). But I don't think the clear answer is "no".

The combined winning % of Nebraska's opponents that season (excluding each team's loss to Nebraska) is .590.

The combined winning % of LSU's opponents this season (excluding each team's loss to LSU) is .650

Four of the teams Nebraska beat finished in the AP top 25. Respectively they were ranked: 2, 5, 7, 9

Seven of the teams LSU beat this year finished in the AP top 25. Respectively they were ranked: 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 14, 25

Of Nebraska's four top 25 wins TWO were AWAY from home (including neutral sites)

Of LSU's seven top 25 wins FIVE were AWAY from home (including neutral sites)
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:01 pm to
That’s nice but still.

17 players from that Miami team were drafted in the first round and 39 in total were drafted. If you were a scholarship player for Miami foootball in 2001, there is a 46% chance you were drafted by a NFL team. That doesn’t include guys who were picked up as UDFA.

LSU has never had a team with that amount of NFL talent on it. Hell I doubt Alabama, Southern Cal or Ohio State have either.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202829 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:21 pm to
Miami may have had the most drafted, but this is about what happened before that.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:27 pm to
And LSU was neither more talented than Miami nor more dominant than Nebraska.0
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3967 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:05 pm to
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How many top 10 opponents did they play? Were they still playing Pacific?


FOH yall still playing Georgia Southern and Northwestern State? Nebraska played 4 top 10 teams, beat them by an average of 31 points. Looked at LSUs 4 WIDEST top 10 victories, won by 23 points
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12407 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:48 pm to
Candidly, that 2001 Miami team tends to be overrated based on the NFL careers of the players on the roster.

If you look back at their schedule, it was a soft Big East lineup littered with a empty calories teams like 2-9 Rutgers (Schiano's first season), Temple, 3-8 WVU (Rich Rod's first season), Pitt, and BC to go with a 5-6 Penn State and a controversial Nebraska team that had just gotten obliterated by Colorado in their last regular season game and no business being in the NC game
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 1:44 pm
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