Is PJ fleck a good coach?

He is a good coach but too weird to be put in charge of an elite program.

I think you're closer to being right than your friend, but I don't know if Fleck will translate to a big program, aymore.

A school like Minny is a good spot for him.

A comparable SEC school would be a 2nd tier school like UK or Arkansas (I'd say Tennessee but their fanbase is insane)

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A comparable SEC school would be a 2nd tier school like UK or Arkansas (I'd say Tennessee but their fanbase is insane)

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One of these things is not like the other.

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I think you're closer to being right than your friend, but I don't know if Fleck will translate to a big program, aymore.

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Yes.

Not every program is championship or bust.

I think Gophers' fans would like to see them take the next step, though, like Wisconsin or Iowa did long ago, and win at least a share of a B1G title.

Speaking of Wisconsin and Iowa, the Gophers are 3-3 against the Badgers since Fleck got in town. This is after losing about 20 games in a row. They're 0-6 against Iowa, though.

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all of this. He is a good coach, but he is weird somewhat. He would have been a good fit at a school like clemson before the NIL era as I believe him and Dabo are similar. Thing is, as you can see with Dabo, all that weird bullshite doesnt end up working in the NIL and TP era imo

im a big fleck fan and think he will continue to win at an 8-9 game clip. my question though is that good enough long term for minnesota fans? We have seen this story plenty of times...coach goes in, sets up his program and by year 3 is winning 9 or so games. Does this for 5-6 years in a row and the locals get restless....they want the next step...problem is the program isnt capable of the next step and coach eventually gets let go. Program falls into the shitter burning through coaches at an impressive rate....i.e. nebraska.


i do feel he would be a good fit at baylor. I mean its Waco, everything is weird there.

Yes he’s a very good coach and has done as well there as can be expected.

When they talk about Fleck people forget the George Floyd thing happened in Minneapolis and completely tanked their 2020. Take away that and his first year and he’s 37-16 there. Pretty strong for Minnesota.

Is Minnesota not also one of those minnow programs though? Do you think he would be less successful at Purdue or Illinois than he’s been at Minnesota? I don’t.

Billy Napier can get hired to a major program because he got Saban’s coffee and won the Sun Belt. But Fleck is somehow not worthy? GTFO.

I think he's one of those coaches that can overachieve at a middling program but I just don't know if his schtick would fly at a major power. He's kind of a weird guy and I don't know if his personality is good for head to head recruiting battles against the UGAs and Bamas of the world, or for getting along with admins and boosters that these schools have, and a major school with title expectations isn't going to be patient with him. I think leaving Minnesota to go to a major school he would end up like Dan Mullen did after leaving MSU for Florida.

Essentially the tl;dr of all this is year I do think he's a good coach, but I don't think he'd recruit at a level that's needed at a major power

Fleck would do well at Arkansas.

I don't believe the recruiting would change much with him at Arkansas but he would be a better in game coach than sam.

Instead of going 6-6, he would make better decisions and adjustments that would win some of the close games Arkansas lost last season.

I would definitely not want Fleck on my schedule every year, especially at a place like Arkansas where it’s just an annoyance we don’t need, though I guess it won’t be an annual game soon regardless.