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Is Clemson officially a CFB new blood?

Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted by karmew32
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:44 pm
The consensus CFB blue blood programs are as follows:
Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska

The following eight programs are generally seen as "new bloods," or the tier immediately below:
LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Florida State, Miami, Penn State

With 2 titles in 3 years (along with another in 1980), does Clemson officially belong in that second tier?
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3356 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
Nebraska has not been relevant since the 90’s.
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
4983 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
send Tennessee down, call up Clemson
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

The consensus CFB blue blood programs are as follows:
quote:

Michigan


You'd think you'd need more than 1 title in the past 70 years to still be considered a blue blood.
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:48 pm to
I’d put them towards the front of the new blood tier. By 2030 they could move into the top category.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:48 pm to
There should be a separate tier for overrated and dead programs like Michigan and Nebraska
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85016 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:49 pm to
As to your OP, yes, Clemson is in whatever tier you would put LSU and UF in, for instance.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10420 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:51 pm to
By the time Clemson's current run is over, it will be looked at like 80's Miami in terms of success.

So yeah, they'll join that newer tier of teams as time passes.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95530 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

As to your OP, yes, Clemson is in whatever tier you would put LSU and UF in, for instance.


Lsu is kinda in its own tier

Fringe top 10 program of the old days, and def top 10 program of the new blood days

Clemson and Florida can only claim the second part of that statement
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9249 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:54 pm to
I have always found this argument interesting. What do you do with schools like Minnesota? Minnesota has 7 claimed national titles!!

679 Wins
7 National Titles - 1904', 34', 35', 36', 40', 41', 60'
18 Conference Titles
1 Heisman
33 All Americans


By Comparison with LSU:

791 Wins
3 National Titles - 1958', 03', 07'
15 Conference Titles
1 Heisman
35 All Americans


By these standards, these two schools belong in the same category. Minnesota is one of the most overlooked schools in the history of college football when you take everything into consideration.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Fringe top 10 program of the old days, and def top 10 program of the new blood days 


Holy shite
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95530 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:05 pm to
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Holy shite
Are you confused?

Top 15 all time rankings for the period 1869-2000 from the generally agreed upon best website for this, cfb warehouse

This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8765 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:06 pm to
Texas and Nebraska aren’t blue bloods
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10668 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:39 pm to
That is true. Blue Blood program evaluation must encompass the entire history of college football. I would do a ranking based on wins, win percentage, conference titles national titles, and players produced--award winners, All-Americans, etc for the 150 year history of college football. That's the most objective way to do it.

Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5425 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

The consensus CFB blue blood programs are as follows:
Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska


This needs to be updated. If you're going to include Michigan and Nebraska, hell, why not include Minnesota or Pitt as well.

The "consensus" blue bloods IMO are

quote:

Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:41 pm to
Looks like a crock of shite. The important points, national champions aren't even close.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95530 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Looks like a crock of shite
So please, in the below list, who is missing and who is below lsu that makes calling lsu a fringe top 10 program before saban a laughing statement to you?


Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:50 pm to
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cfb warehouse



R.I.P
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4821 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:59 pm to
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By the time Clemson's current run is over, it will be looked at like 80's Miami in terms of success.


A little town in South Carolina is not going to attract to produce anything like 80's Miami.

They play in an insanely easy conference and to their credit they showed up for the biggest game of the year last night, but their "dynasty" is an optical illusion.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7618 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:14 pm to
Kudos to Wikipedia, it looks like Minnesota football didn’t play in a bowl game until 1960 (lost). Prior to that the conference or school elected to not play in bowl games.

And there’s your worthless piece of sports trivia!

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