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re: Indications are building of potential Kirk Cousins move to Atlanta
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:37 am to brmark70816
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:37 am to brmark70816
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I think I'd rather Fields
What do people continue to see in this guy?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:49 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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What do people continue to see in this guy
Young
Super talented
Cheap (relative to other QBs)
Starting experience in multiple systems
Bitter, with something to prove
It's funny people are losely tying Cousins to Atlanta because his wife's from there. Yet Fields grew up in the area and has a huge local following. Listen to local radio for 10 minutes. Fans are clamoring for him. Even if it failed, it would cost a fraction of what it costs with Cousins (which has to be just as big of a gamble) and locals wouldn't be angry they gave it a shot..
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:53 am to brmark70816
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Cheap (relative to other QBs)
For like 1 year
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Yet Fields grew up in the area and has a huge local following.
For a guy like Fields, this is scarier for a franchise.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:29 am to brmark70816
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Listen to local radio for 10 minutes. Fans are clamoring for him.
I listen to ATL sports radio every day. The only people who really want Fields are the same fans who always shite on Matt Ryan because he replaced Michael Vick even though he was a far, far better QB than Vick.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:51 am to VADawg
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The only people who really want Fields are the same fans who always shite on Matt Ryan because he replaced Michael Vick even though he was a far, far better QB than Vick.
Only people? What would you say is the % that supports picking him up?
When I listen it seems like somewhere inbetween 75-80% of people want to get Fields or would be fine if they did it. It just seems overwhelming numbers would really like the move. Do you hear or see it differently?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:57 am to brmark70816
IMO, there are two factions who want him:
1. The group who still views him as an uber elite talent with enormous upside (which he clearly will never hit because he can't read defenses fast enough) because of his high school recruiting ranking. Even Matt Chernoff, who bought into the Fields hype as much as anyone, has come off of his stance a bit on Fields and now admits he just isn't that good.
2. The Vick truthers who want him because he is black.
1. The group who still views him as an uber elite talent with enormous upside (which he clearly will never hit because he can't read defenses fast enough) because of his high school recruiting ranking. Even Matt Chernoff, who bought into the Fields hype as much as anyone, has come off of his stance a bit on Fields and now admits he just isn't that good.
2. The Vick truthers who want him because he is black.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:59 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:03 am to RLDSC FAN
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You realize pretty much everyone in the league reads PFT, right? You realize I've been doing this 23 years, right???
Florio is such a bitch
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:16 am to RemouladeSawce
Cousins has 1 playoff win in 12 seasons
And if it wasnt for a top 2 defense, Patrick Mahomes and his beloved Chiefs that sucked balls on offense all year don’t even make the playoffs.
And if it wasnt for a top 2 defense, Patrick Mahomes and his beloved Chiefs that sucked balls on offense all year don’t even make the playoffs.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:20 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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nd 2022 he had Marcus Mariotta throwing him(and I use that term loosely) the football. Then Ridder. And Heinicke sprinkled in.
You see the common denominator here? It's bad QB play
im undecided on pitts, but to play devil's advocate here, there is another common denominator in pitts not being good lol. it's kyle pitts.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:44 am to VADawg
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IMO, there are two factions who want him:
Doesn't really answer my question. Is it a large majority or not?
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The Vick truthers who want him because he is black
This just seems lazy. The kid is a great talent and local. Local people are going to want him to succeed. Throwing the race part just isn't necessary.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:00 am to brmark70816
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Is it a large majority or not?
I don't think so. Most of the radio hosts seem to view Fields as a Plan D or Plan E kind of emergency scenario and I think a lot of the fans agree.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:10 am to brmark70816
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Young
Super talented
Cheap (relative to other QBs)
Starting experience in multiple systems
Bitter, with something to prove
But he's inaccurate and has bad throwing mechanics. And he's slow in reading defenses.Those are three things that don't improve once you are in the League for 3 years.
Sorry, he ain't it. And people need to quit thinking that he's this super QB just waiting to be unleashed. He's just not a good QB. Those are facts.
Hard pass.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:11 am to VADawg
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Listen to local radio for 10 minutes. Fans are clamoring for him
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I listen to ATL sports radio every day. The only people who really want Fields are the same fans who always shite on Matt Ryan because he replaced Michael Vick even though he was a far, far better QB than Vick.
QFT.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:12 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Mate are you becoming FalconsBravesDawgs?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:13 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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im undecided on pitts, but to play devil's advocate here, there is another common denominator in pitts not being good lol. it's kyle pitts.
Maybe. But I'm willing to give him this year since he will be fully healthy and will(hopefully) have a competent QB throwing to him, something he hasn't had since his rookie year.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:14 am to SirWinston
The vast majority of my friends are Falcons fans. I just want to see them do well. That's all.
And FWIW, I don't want Fields in a Steelers uni, either.
And FWIW, I don't want Fields in a Steelers uni, either.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:17 am to brmark70816
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The Vick truthers who want him because he is black
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This just seems lazy. The kid is a great talent and local. Local people are going to want him to succeed. Throwing the race part just isn't necessary.
Who gives a frick if he's local or not? Can he play QB at a high level? The answer is no.
As for the race portion unfortunately that plays a large role in this like VA said earlier. And it is split along racial lines for the most part. You have your outliers on both sides, but it is mostly a race thing.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:20 am to VADawg
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I don't think so. Most of the radio hosts seem to view Fields as a Plan D or Plan E kind of emergency scenario and I think a lot of the fans agree
Carl Dukes will openly weep on air when Fields doesn't become a Falcon.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:31 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Who gives a frick if he's local or not? Can he play QB at a high level? The answer is no
People were just doing the same thing with Cousins and his wife. I was just following their lead. But it's definitely a factor for many.
I can think of a ton of HOF and SB QBs that didn't really start emerging until after year 3, especially when they were in horrible situations. It's not rare.
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As for the race portion unfortunately that plays a large role in this like VA said earlier. And it is split along racial lines for the most part. You have your outliers on both sides, but it is mostly a race thing
Ageee to disagree. I don't think most care. I don't even know what race Ridder is or that it ever comes up as a +/-..
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:01 am to RLDSC FAN
Mike Florio is a C U Next Tuesday
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