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re: Indiana is not only the only Conference champion left in the playoff

Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:38 am to
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:38 am to
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You’re right. It should have been Alabama vs. Oklahoma State.


This doesn’t even make any sense. LSU was the only team that was undefeated and they had beaten Alabama already and they had won the SEC championship.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:19 am to
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The only argument killer is that Alabama shut out LSU in that game. If that ended up being a very close game, this would've been a nonstop controversy.


This was never even thought about from the stance of what had happened.

LSU had ended the season expecting to play some new team and the media forced a rematch. Alabama goes into the game angry and LSU has no way to match that motivation. This is what the constant second chances has done to college football. Everyone knows if the situation was reversed the media was not giving LSU a rematch. The shite was dumb.

Stop giving second chances to teams as it creates the controversy. It should have just been conference champions. Win your conference and you are in. There is no argument. If you can’t win your own conference then what is your argument for being #1?

Now the conference have done something even dumber. They made them too big to properly schedule everyone. Before they started cannablizing each other’s conference they could have done a 6 seed tournament of the best conference champions. It would have been super legit.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 11:21 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:25 am to
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14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game. Now look at where we are.


Actually some of us said the same thing 24 years ago and again 22 years ago.
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:37 am to
What happened was that conferences expanded too large to the point that ordinary head to heads not only couldn’t establish a champion, they couldn’t pick two teams to play each other. Every conference had some wacky tie breaker scenario resulting in one of their potential best teams not making the game. The ACC was the worst about this.

When conferences were 10 teams, there were occasional bad tie breaker scenarios (like the infamous 3 way Big 12 tie back in the day), but every team had actually played one another. In the 12 and 14 team conferences, the division set up ensured that if there were two great teams that had never played each other before championship weekend, they were about to.

Ohio State never played Oregon or Indiana. Alabama never played Ole Miss or Texas A&M, and A&M never played Georgia, Ole Miss, or Oklahoma either. Miami never played Duke, Virginia, or Georgia Tech in conference play.

The conferences have grown too large for the current system to reasonably crown an obvious champion. We need to return to smaller, regional, geographically concise conferences of preferably 12, but definitely no more than 14, teams each.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:42 am to
6 12 team conferences would be perfect

You play 11 games against only your conference and you have to win the damn conference to advance

Now you have the best of everything. A playoff at the end of the year and a season where every damn game matters, traditions will become massive because you fight against the same 11 teams every year, and conf championship banners are huge deals

Basically like euro soccer. Those people care as much about winning their damn league as much as being the champions league winner
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 11:43 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:47 am to
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You’re right. It should have been Alabama vs. Oklahoma State.


LSUDS
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:53 am to
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It doesn’t affect the results, but I guess you get better 1st round games. Who cares

Who cares? Oh, I don't know, maybe people who watch college football for entertainment?

What kinda stupid question is that?

Why else do you watch college football, if it isn't for entertainment?
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3132 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:54 am to
The top college football programs should break off and go independent. Form their own league and play each other. Conferences only serve to benefit the bottom feeder programs and subsidize them with money that they cannot earn through their own success. It’s a socialist structure. I am befuddled why people love it so much.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37063 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:59 am to
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6 12 team conferences would be perfect

You play 11 games against only your conference and you have to win the damn conference to advance

Now you have the best of everything. A playoff at the end of the year and a season where every damn game matters, traditions will become massive because you fight against the same 11 teams every year, and conf championship banners are huge deals

Basically like euro soccer. Those people care as much about winning their damn league as much as being the champions league winner

I like the idea, the only issue I see is that there would be arguments over who gets the byes.

But, I've always thought that a scenario where you play every team in your conference, and no out of conference games, where conference champions would be the only teams to move on would be the best system.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111510 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:02 pm to
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But, I've always thought that a scenario where you play every team in your conference, and no out of conference games, where conference champions would be the only teams to move on would be the best system.
It should absolutely be the way

Winning your conference then is still bad arse and would have you almost exited as the natty every year
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:11 pm to
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I’ll die on that hill that there shouldn’t have been a rematch


It went against all common sense and natural fairness. But the beginning of the Decade of the ESPN-fix was now upon us.

Its amazing how we let one entity with substantial financial interests run and control this Sport for that Decade, being inundated with yearly propaganda.

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25274 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:17 pm to
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tricked into thinking more playoff teams ensures you find the “best team”. No, you find the team that played the best in that tournament


But you have to have enough slots to find the best team to make sure that team is in the tournament to play the best in said tournament.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70521 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:19 pm to
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Why else do you watch college football, if it isn't for entertainment?


College football is a cultural proxy for war between the states. It is a mostly peaceful means by which tribal rivalries are expressed. It’s basically a way for Americans to vent out their frustrations without dissolving into civil war.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2717 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:48 pm to
And Oklahoma State would have given Alabama a far better game than LSU did. That LSU team was built on a massive TO margin and non-offensive tds. Alabama played smart and beat the piss out of LSU. That final score doesn’t even begin to show how much of an asswhooping the game was.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:49 pm to
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And Oklahoma State would have given Alabama a far better game than LSU did.


LSU would have smoked Oklahoma State
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2717 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:52 pm to
Sure, just like they smoked Bama right?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:00 pm to
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Sure, just like they smoked Bama right?


Oklahoma state was the 2 ranked offense and the 61 rated defense.

LSU was the 17th ranked offense and number 2 defense.

Oklahoma State lost to 6-7 Iowa State
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2717 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:21 pm to
And 2007 LSU lost to two 5 loss teams and you have no problem calling yourself a “champion” that year.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70521 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:23 pm to
That system wouldn’t be awful, but my preference would be this:

6 conferences of 12 teams, each with 2 divisions of 6 (like you said). Notre Dame must join a conference.

11 game regular season, but only 8 conference games (you play everyone in your division annually and everyone in the other division every other year)

3 OOC games against other teams in those other major conferences. It is optional for one to be a permanent OOC rival.

1 preseason game against a team outside of the 6 major conferences (an in-state rival rent-a-win, or something similar)

First round of post-season is conference championship games.

The four major bowls then pick from the 6 conference champions and two at-larges to fill the four big bowl games on NYD (Fiesta, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta). These matchups (beyond the at-large teams) are not based on computer rankings or human polls, but based entirely on traditional bowl tie-ins (i.e. the Big 10 and Pac 12 champs play in the Rose Bowl, the ACC Champ goes to the Orange, the SEC to the Sugar, etc).

After the bowl games are done, you end up with 4 winners in a playoff, seeded based on rankings, played at the higher ranked team’s home stadium. Championship game is played in a neutral site that rotates around like the superbowl.

It’s effectively a 14 team playoff. You could even take it a step further by having 4 at large teams playing each other during conference championship game weekend with two of them making the major bowls. You could even make these the Citrus Bowl and the Cotton Bowl or whatever.

So, in this way:
1. OOC games matter because they will factor in seriously for rankings of at-large teams. Teams want to improve their chances of making the playoff by beating good teams OOC.

2. Every team has a path to the playoff by winning their division.

3. There’s enough at-large slots not to punish great teams that occasionally miss their division championships via weird tie-breakers, but not enough to devalue the regular season or manufacture too many rematches or mulligans.

4. The bowls are maintained as they seed the “playoff”.

5. Regionality is preserved.

6. Pollsters still have some say, but not all the say.

Downsides:
Conferences would have to be massively realigned and tv deals renegotiated.
Potential cold weather home games in January.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:31 pm to
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And 2007 LSU lost to two 5 loss teams and you have no problem calling yourself a “champion” that year.


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