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re: In defense of Principal Jane Griffin and Winnfield Senior High School
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:50 pm to choupiquesushi
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:50 pm to choupiquesushi
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so.. if they are giving minority scholarships to athletes - how is that not any different than what people are accusing uhigh, curtis and eca of doing?
When I say "athlete" with Episcopal, I have to preface it a bit. Episcopal's stance toward athletics was once described by a coach there as "If we had a Tiddlywinks team, the school would require both a Varsity and a JV squad so everyone could play."
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:50 pm to teke184
quote:
When I say "athlete" with Episcopal, I have to preface it a bit. Episcopal's stance toward athletics was once described by a coach there as "If we had a Tiddlywinks team, the school would require both a Varsity and a JV squad so everyone could play."
I understand that.. but I think things have changed... a bit..
Posted on 11/14/13 at 2:01 pm to choupiquesushi
I'll give a hint why private schools might want to go all out for their athletics now... One gym you may have seen on tv has a black and white banner with a swoosh on it... Another one ain't just doing shoring commercials 
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/14/13 at 2:04 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
I'll give a hint why private schools might want to go all out for their athletics now... One gym you may have seen on tv has a black and white banner with a swoosh on it...
ha... one old Nola coach saw that coming in football years ago.. and got his plan shot down
Posted on 11/14/13 at 2:04 pm to supadave3
quote:
How in the hell do other states handle this issue?
In Georgia they have split public/private championships for the lowest class A and this was actually a good thing. The lower class public schools are in less populated areas and struggle with funding for athletics and regulations on how to spend that money while most of the private schools in A in GA are from very affluent areas with a lot of money flowing in. The current top 2 seeds in the 1A private schools are from Atlanta suburban areas.
Instead of more split championships GHSA is currently discussing a numerical factor to multiply to enrollment of private, magnet, and charter schools and some city schools. City schools are included because of the additional tax money provided by city collections that county schools do not receive.
There are many complaints of recruitment in GA just like in LA. I think it is part of the culture in high school athletics.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 2:05 pm to choupiquesushi
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I understand that.. but I think things have changed... a bit..
Possibly.
Haven't been close with the coaching staff in probably 10 years nor have I had close contact with a lot of students there in that time.
At least two particular coaches with some success there over the long run had pretty much figured out how to take guys who were middling athletes but had work ethic and then train them up into executing well.
They occasionally got good athletes to work with but were usually asked to make chicken salad out of chicken shite.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:33 pm to slaughlin
Principal Griffin is simply saying that recruiting is fine as long as it is the public schools doing the recruiting.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 5:16 pm to tfl41
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I know for a fact the former freshman at Scotlandville who is now a star lineman at U-High was recruited.
If this is the same person I'm thinking about, I remember reading an article about him and his parents went off the record and said that "no, he was not recruited."
Lol
Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:34 pm to Overbrook
Yeah that's exactly what she's saying. I wish some of you who are ripping her apart would take a few minutes to meet her. I guarantee you wouldn't be spouting off about her character.
No one is saying the split in its current form is perfect. Jane Griffin spoke for a whole lo of people in this state but she wasn't the only one who voted for the plan. A MAJORITY of principals did.
And I can assure you Dr. Griffin is not for "recruiting" or any other kind of cheating, public or private
No one is saying the split in its current form is perfect. Jane Griffin spoke for a whole lo of people in this state but she wasn't the only one who voted for the plan. A MAJORITY of principals did.
And I can assure you Dr. Griffin is not for "recruiting" or any other kind of cheating, public or private
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:42 pm to slaughlin
I don't think the split says anything about her character. Now if the other ordeal with the nurse is true, that says plent about her character. Been a rough year for Ms. Griffin.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:00 pm to slaughlin
Yes a majority of principals voted .. How many of them don't play football and had no skin in the game???? Just curious
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:04 pm to slackster
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Nurse
Thought that was Parkway
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:34 pm to JJ27
He is talking about the principal from Parkway....I guess. You know, I do my best to bring rational thought and discussion to this board, especially on this topic because emotions are running high. But if someone can't even get the right school/principal and they just start tearing into people without knowing what they are talking about, it may be a lost cause.
I will say again - I am not anti-private, as I graduated from a private school. I am for a level playing field with consistent rules, just as Dr. Griffin is
I will say again - I am not anti-private, as I graduated from a private school. I am for a level playing field with consistent rules, just as Dr. Griffin is
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:50 pm to slaughlin
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I wish some of you who are ripping her apart would take a few minutes to meet her. I guarantee you wouldn't be spouting off about her character.
I'm sure she's a wonderful person. But the idea that this is about recruiting makes no sense. Public schools recruit.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:56 pm to Overbrook
And as I've said multiple times, this has never been about recruiting for me. It's all about attendance zones and how they are unequally applied to different schools
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:37 pm to slaughlin
Class c was told to vote for the split or the next move was to abolish class c and combine with class b
This is about north vs south and not public vs private
JC and ECA are schools run by football coaches. What do you expect them to do? Not compete? They are open about their mission and athletics is a priority. Don't like it? Kick them out, accept they are going to sue and let the courts sort it out
This whole thing is tommy Henry's fault and is just continued by henderson and his flunkies. The organization is corrupt and the kids suffer as a result
In other states they are split to protect the privates from the dominant publics. Quite the opposite in Louisiana
This is about north vs south and not public vs private
JC and ECA are schools run by football coaches. What do you expect them to do? Not compete? They are open about their mission and athletics is a priority. Don't like it? Kick them out, accept they are going to sue and let the courts sort it out
This whole thing is tommy Henry's fault and is just continued by henderson and his flunkies. The organization is corrupt and the kids suffer as a result
In other states they are split to protect the privates from the dominant publics. Quite the opposite in Louisiana
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:48 pm to slaughlin
I know it gets tough sometimes. Keep trying, but it won't get any better.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 9:24 pm to oldtimefootball
quote:
Mrs. Griffin should be commended for proposing
the split playoffs.
First of all no she shouldn't. Sore loser can't stand she lost to a real team in the championship.
quote:
Most of the ones griping about the split are
the Select schools' supporters who will not
accept the FACT that certain Select schools
abused their right to even be in the LHSAA
by making themselves football factories.
Not your standard private schools. U-high (barely private), Jc and ECA. Who else?
quote:
Select schools have certain advantages
that do not make a level playing field,
You know what what the advantage is? We pay TUITION.
Please continue to having your affair with the honorable and noble Jane Griffin. While your at it thank her for destroying high school football in Louisiana as we know it.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 9:43 pm to Benw225
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Please continue to having your affair with the honorable and noble Jane Griffin. While your at it thank her for destroying high school football in Louisiana as we know it.
Over-dramatic much?
By the way, thank your private school English teachers for your inability to properly use the word "your." All that money was clearly worth it.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 9:57 pm to lsutigers1992
Just remember this whole thing was about "fairness" and everyone having an equal shot to win a state championship
There is no such thing as fairness when there are so many differences between the regions and the schools. And there is no way to create a scenario where everyone has an equal shot at a state title. There are always some schools that are just better than everyone else.
I think it is also disengenuous that these admins argue about state title hopes when this is really all about pride.
Pride goeth before destruction.....
There is no such thing as fairness when there are so many differences between the regions and the schools. And there is no way to create a scenario where everyone has an equal shot at a state title. There are always some schools that are just better than everyone else.
I think it is also disengenuous that these admins argue about state title hopes when this is really all about pride.
Pride goeth before destruction.....
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