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re: Imane Khelif, women’s gold medalist boxer, files legal complaint over abuse

Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:15 pm to
Sounds like somebody wants some

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Boudi
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Good for HER!


He’s not going to frick you bro.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:32 pm to
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I don’t believe XY automatically means you’re a man.


It doesn’t make you a woman. Probably only one XY development disorder where a male would be both born and go through puberty looking externally like a regularly developing female and look fully feminine externally without requiring any hormone therapy. They cannot make any use out of their produced testosterone to masculinize which converts to estrogen. They can sometimes not find out until seeing a doctor for not menstruating by age 15 or even 16. They then find out about their genetic issue, that they have no female internal reproductive parts, have a pouch for a vagina, and need to have their undescended testicles removed as they likely will become cancerous.That is not the boxer as the boxer has zero femininity but some masculinity.

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still is as a girl because that’s what she is.
Have you seen this boxer? If doctor and/or parents decided to raise as girl from birth it still doesn’t mean there is no competitive advantage competing against women, and it also doesn’t mean the world has to accept their choice and continue the lie.

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Cisgender
Made up. It is also used for biological men and women who aren’t mentally ill to make the mentally ill feel better. Doctors do not have the ability to assign biological men and women their sex at birth. Do they assign race, eye color, defects, and so on at birth? They inform us of the baby’s sex. They cannot assign it. Any term like cisgender using assignment at birth as part of its definition is automatically invalid.

Intersex would be a better description.




Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:35 pm to
Having XY DNA means yourmusculoskeletal system is denser, stronger, faster than someone with XX chromosomes.

It will never be a level playing field in boxing even if this cat had birthed 3 children.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:41 pm to
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Having XY DNA means yourmusculoskeletal system is denser, stronger, faster than someone with XX chromosomes.


Depends. The big difference isn’t your genotype. It’s actually going through male puberty.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:43 pm to
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You sure 'bout that? Gonna have to see some proof unless it's some sort of rare arse chimerism where they had a few cells with XY. They are still XX.

Certain. It’s been documented. XY people are capable of having a functional womb.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 8:47 pm to
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If he proves he is a female a lot of agencies and high profile people are fricked.


Agreed.



You sure about that? The IBC ruling etc etc is probably enough precedent to protect people sharing that POV.

Dude shouldn't have been allowed to fight if testosterone levels were too high, regardless of reasons why. It's ludicrous the olympics relies on a stupid fricking passport to determine gender. Do they not even do doping testing anymore?

PS, if you added all the minutes I have ever watched of the Olympics, you wouldn't have an hour. Not my thing.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:28 pm to
What are they going to do, trace IP's and extradite people to France to face trial for hurting this guy's feelings?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:43 pm to
Newspaper articles and very prominent people called him trans. Not just xy, trans. He/she has a very legit case
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:32 pm to
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Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:34 pm to
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Certain. It’s been documented. XY people are capable of having a functional womb.


Womb not ovaries. That is with a defective Y in the XY and requires constant estrogen and progesterone therapy as they can’t produce them (nor testosterone). They also require an egg donor and in vitro fertilization. Without constant therapy they would be closer to androgynous form without functional reproductive internals. They functionally have a single X chromosome and not an XY or XX.

We have special Olympics for those types…
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:02 am to
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Good for HER!


You're thinking of the wrong person.

This is about Imane Khelif. Please stop misgendering him.
Posted by Tiger_Man61
Monroe
Member since Mar 2014
236 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:30 am to
The irony of this post is that you could use your actual balls and get the frick over a woman winning a women’s event, yet here you are bitching about it because you believe online grifters as long as it’s anti-trans bullshite.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:37 am to
I’m not calling him trans. I’m rightfully pointing out that he is a biological male that is calling himself a female. If he is in fact a biological female (he’s not), he would have settled this a long time ago.

At this point, I don’t even care what gender this guy wants to call himself as his thoughts and feelings are irrelevant when it comes to his DNA anyways. He should not be allowed to compete against women on an international stage, particularly not the Olympics. If Algeria wants to deny biology for the chance to gain a gold medal, that speaks to their character and lack thereof.

This legal complaint has no leg to stand on. What’s next? Ugly broads filing complaints for being called ugly?
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:41 am to
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This legal complaint has no leg to stand on
I wish otherwise but this is just wrong. European laws are extremely messed up on the topic. She'll get plenty of rulings in her favor or force settlements
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:05 am to
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She's a woman

hes a woman…

LINK
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10068 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:49 am to
She said that whoever doubts her can suck her dick.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21757 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:27 am to
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Are you insinuating that the other commission that found XY somehow fabricated that?

Umm, yeh. It’s the IBA, one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.

But didn't her parents sort of confirm this by clarifying that she was born with both male & female genitalia, and they elected to raise her as a female.

I also recall the IOC confirming the IBA's findings, but also stating she still met the standard; but the article may not have confirmed the findings but acknowledged their results were different that the IBA's.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:30 am to
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But didn't her parents sort of confirm this by clarifying that she was born with both male & female genitalia, and they elected to raise her as a female.
No. her parents simply said she is a female

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I also recall the IOC confirming the IBA's findings
also no

Nobody, not even the IBA really has confirmed the genetic test.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 10:31 am
Posted by Pizza Dan
Member since Apr 2023
687 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:34 am to
These people never stop and never go away. Crazy.
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