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re: If Tiger had an ounce of integrity he would DQ himself from the Masters
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:13 am to lsupride87
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:13 am to lsupride87
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I was on a down slope and I knew the ball couldn't roll closer to the hole then I originally hit so I went "as near as possible"
Then you drop it twice, mark the spot if it rolls closer then place it on that spot.
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Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:14 am to threeputt
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After watching the shot, drop, and interview, there is no question that it was an illegal drop.
absolutely correct. there was no malice on Tigers part but rules are rules.
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should DQ himself
would never happen in a million years
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:14 am to jacks40
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but what prevented Tiger from playing the ball closer to his original drop?
According to Tiger, it was because he did not want to hit the flag again. So he moved the ball back to gain a competitive advantage
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:15 am to threeputt
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What say you
I dont give a shite?
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:15 am to DEG
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The likelihood that his drop will fall into the divot.
Looks like he could have played it closer and still avoided that IMO.
/don't care if Tiger is DQed or not.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:15 am to Tiger Ryno
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there was no malice on Tigers part but rules are rules.
I agree with this guy
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:16 am to Jarlaxle
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Then you drop it twice, mark the spot if it rolls closer then place it on that spot.
In the context of pace of play being scrutinized, this might not have been an option.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:17 am to threeputt
I think he comes clean and tells Lindsay he cheated
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:17 am to threeputt
But the issue is that he may have been within the rules, competitive advantage or not.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:19 am to lsugolf1105
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But the issue is that he may have been within the rules, competitive advantage or not.
I hear you and again I am no rules expert but I do know that INTENT does play a factor in the rules .. For example If I take a swing and my intention is to hit the ball and I miss .. what is the ruling ???
eta: Even though I did not make contact, I still have to count the stroke because the intent was there
This post was edited on 4/13/13 at 8:20 am
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:22 am to threeputt
Simple drops already take forever, this is going to further complicate things
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:23 am to threeputt
How is it a competitive advantage when you are dropping after dunking it?
If anything, the pin should be DQ'd.
:dropgate:
If anything, the pin should be DQ'd.
:dropgate:
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:23 am to threeputt
Meh...
I'm a huge golf fan and like that it has integrity and all that. But this I these guys lively hood, they shouldn't be expected to know exactly where to drop, what's a hazard/bunker (think DJ a few years ago) ect...
It's the fricking Masters, they should have a rules official with every group, or on every hole that's waiting to help in situations like this. If Tigers drop really was illegal, the official should have stopped him before he hit the ball, and let him know, shite there are cameras everywhere as well. If they can't do that, players shouldn't be penalized on situations like this one IMO
I'm a huge golf fan and like that it has integrity and all that. But this I these guys lively hood, they shouldn't be expected to know exactly where to drop, what's a hazard/bunker (think DJ a few years ago) ect...
It's the fricking Masters, they should have a rules official with every group, or on every hole that's waiting to help in situations like this. If Tigers drop really was illegal, the official should have stopped him before he hit the ball, and let him know, shite there are cameras everywhere as well. If they can't do that, players shouldn't be penalized on situations like this one IMO
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:24 am to Tiger1242
Exfrickingactly
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:24 am to threeputt
I get ya. It just comes down to the definition of as nearly as possible. I think it is obvious he got the rule incorrect but if he actually dropped it 1 yard from the spot, is that close enough under the rule. What if it was 2 yards?
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:25 am to Tiger1242
I agree that, at least at majors, there should be a rules official with each group to make these calls, but that isn't the way it works right now.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:25 am to Tiger1242
Nope, they have officials with every group but the rules of golf say the player has to ask for clarification or it is assumed the player knows the situation
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:26 am to Tiger1242
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I'm a huge golf fan and like that it has integrity and all that. But this I these guys lively hood, they shouldn't be expected to know exactly where to drop, what's a hazard/bunker (think DJ a few years ago) ect...
Disagree with this stance. If its their livelihood they should know all this stuff and if there is a question then officials can be approached for answers.
No one gave the Lions head coach slack for not knowing/remembering the rule on throwing the challenge flag on an automatically reviewed play.
This post was edited on 4/13/13 at 8:30 am
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:27 am to lsugolf1105
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It just comes down to the definition of as nearly as possible. I think it is obvious he got the rule incorrect but if he actually dropped it 1 yard from the spot, is that close enough under the rule. What if it was 2 yards?
That is why I think it comes down to Tigers INTENTION .. What was he trying to do with that drop .. He has already stated that he was trying to get an advantage so it will be interesting to see what HE has to say about it today
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:27 am to Tiger1242
There are rules officials all over the course. It's not their job to stop the player and tell them what they're doing wrong. The player has to ask.
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