re: I don&#39;t care what they say tonight. Johnny Unitas was the best qb

Posted by AreJay

Member since Aug 2005

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:50 pm to prplhze2000

some things people might not be aware of

-league pass yards/att
1960 7.2
2011 7.2

-league pass td/att
1960 5.4
2011 4.3

-league pass td/g
1960 1.4
2011 1.5

-league pass att/g
1960 26.4 (johnny u = 31.5)
2011 34.0 (brees = 41.1)

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Posted by Sophandros

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Member since Feb 2005

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:52 pm to AreJay

quote:
-league pass att/g
1960 26.4 (johnny u = 31.5)
2011 34.0 (brees = 41.1)

Important part here.

Both threw the ball about 20% more than the average QB of their era...

Posted by Bench McElroy

Member since Nov 2009

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:58 pm to AreJay

What about these stats?

League Passing Yards per game

1960- 170.6
2012- 240.9

League completions per game

1960- 13.2
2012- 21.9

League INTs per game

1960- 1.8
2012- 0.9

League completion percentage

1960- 50.2%
2012- 62.1%

League QB rating

1960- 61.0
2012- 85.5

League Adjusted Yards per Pass Attempt

1960- 5.3
2012- 6.9

League Adjusted Net Yards per Pass Attempt

1960- 4.2
2012- 6.1

League sack percentage

1960- 8.7%
2012- 6.2%

Posted by primemover225

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 3:19 pm to Bunk Moreland

quote:
Can I use this thread to say the ONE TD PER GAME FOR A BUNCH OF GAMES streak is no big deal?

Posted by Paul Allen

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 3:40 pm to prplhze2000

Danny Marino is the best I've ever seen.

Posted by SJS Eagle 85

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 4:02 pm to Paul Allen

quote:
Danny Marino is the best I've ever seen.

Posted by Zamoro10

Member since Jul 2008

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:15 pm to SJS Eagle 85

When DB's could maul the receiver all the way down the field and O-lineman couldn't use their hands and the QBs could be hammered.

During the 47-game streak, Unitas:
Attempted 27.6 passes per game; completed 14.8.
Gained 8.20 yards per attempt; 15.3 yards per completion.
Averaged 2.17 TD passes per game.
Completed one of every 12.7 passes for a TD.
Threw one TD pass for every 6.8 completions.

No. of TDs during streak
1956 -3
1957 - *24
1958 - *19
1959 - *32
1960 - 24
* led league

During Unitas' streak

Passing attempts/Rushing attempts
1956 - 279/432
1957 - 314/434
1958 - 354/456 (NFL Champs)
1959 - 375/435 (NFL Champs)
1960 - 393/345

(only once did Unitas attempt more passes than rushes during the streak)

When DB's can't touch you or the QB...

Brees

Passing attempts/Rushing attempts
2009 - 544/468 (SB Champs)
2010 - 661/380
2011 - 662/431
2012 - 236/172 (so far)

(Brees has never attempted more rushes than passes during his streak)

This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 5:19 pm

Posted by alajones

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 6:21 pm to Bench McElroy

Isn't it clear who the best Athlete is?

Posted by prplhze2000

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 7:06 pm to Zach

quote:
I saw Unitas in his prime. He was a great passer and made great decisions. But he was not very mobile. Did not have the escapability of a guy like John Elway.

Marino wasn't exactly mobile either.

Posted by saderade

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 7:42 pm to prplhze2000

It really is incredibly difficult to judge how someone would do with such a large generation gap. While the defense rules were less stringent, there weren't Woodson's and Revis' in coverage with an Ed Reed or Laron Landry playing over the top.

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Posted by bomber77

Member since Aug 2008

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 7:49 pm to saderade

You gonna give Johnny Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Fitzgerald, and Gronkowski?

I think he'd be fine.

Posted by prplhze2000

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:00 pm to saderade

and back then they could clothesline receivers.

Posted by RedHawk

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 8:44 pm to prplhze2000

I don't know who is better, but:

Johnny U's Steak>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drew B's Steak!

Posted by Tiger1242

Member since Jul 2011

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Posted on 10/8/12 at 9:00 pm to RedHawk

Johnny's got him dead to rights