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re: How is Roger Craig just now getting in the Hall of Fame?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:59 am to RohanGonzales
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:59 am to RohanGonzales
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The guy that was the RB with the Elway Broncos was just as brief and he has been in the Hall for 10 years at least.
True.
I think Terrell Davis having a 2,000 yard rushing season with over 20 TDs, being named NFL MVP, and also being a SB MVP with 3 TDs in that game (one of several to tie the record first set by Craig) probably has alot to do with it. Also, he was viewed by many as the key player to help Elway finally get over that hump and win his first SB, and the Broncos franchise as well.
I am glad Roger Craig finally made it in, and the people making those decisions didn't wait until he was deceased, like they did with Cliff Branch.
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:59 am to saintsfan22
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That's because it was actually Terrell Davis' Broncos since he ran for like 4500 yards and 45 TDs in back to back full seasons that finished in a Super Bowl win.
but his productive period was only about 4 years
I was pointing out his briefness, not arguing that he doesn't belong.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:04 am to RohanGonzales
Yeah I'm just saying Davis' brief stardom was so otherworldly they had to put him in. Craig's great seasons were spaced out so it wasn't like he fell off from overuse/injury.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 9:08 am to saintsfan22
Crazy thing about Craig is he played FB for the first several seasons of his career, as Wendell Tyler was more the HB/TB.
Craig garnered that 1,000/1,000 season while doing a shite ton of blocking for Tyler running up behind him. He literally did everything.
Craig garnered that 1,000/1,000 season while doing a shite ton of blocking for Tyler running up behind him. He literally did everything.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 8:59 pm to TechDawg2007
He is a Hall of Fame member. If you watched football when he played he deserves it. He could rush for 1,000 yards and get 1,000 in receiving. Those are hall of fame numbers.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
He absolutely earned it.
And…he was fun to watch. Way back in the day.
And…he was fun to watch. Way back in the day.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:06 am to Shoulderchoke
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Glad he finally got in.
100%
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He was such a fun player to watch.
Not as a Saints fan as a child
Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:25 am to ragincajun03
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I was just starting to pay attention to football in 1988 as a wee young lad, so I basically got just a quick glimpse at his prime, and at that time, was too young to understand and appreciate.
Same. Guys from that era always seem like bigger stars to me than most who came after. Tecmo Bowl helped with that, I was playing them in their prime for years and years on the original system.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 5:48 am to TechDawg2007
He was unstoppable in Tecmo Bowl you could always throw the ball to him on Pass 3 even when the opposition called it too you just had to throw it right when he broke left across the field on the route.
Everyone talks about Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl but Roger Craig was the real killer.
Definitely seems odd they made him wait for 33 years after retirement.
The NFL HoF pales in comparison to the MLB HoF so not sure what they are doing. I'm curious if they still have Matt Schaub's jersey on display from his game vs Jacksonville when he tied Warren Moon for 2nd in most yards in a game behind Norm Van Brockln. I was at that game and it's a complete joke to count it anywhere near Moon's game.
Moon @ Arrowhead in regulation vs *checks notes* Derrick Thomas and the Chiefs went 11-5 that season
Schaub vs Jacksonville in 2012 the first year the NFL implemented modified sudden-death for OT in the regular season. The Texans had 3 OT possessions and the Jaguars went 2-14
Yet the NFL HoF has the Schaub jersey on display? Ick
Everyone talks about Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl but Roger Craig was the real killer.
Definitely seems odd they made him wait for 33 years after retirement.
The NFL HoF pales in comparison to the MLB HoF so not sure what they are doing. I'm curious if they still have Matt Schaub's jersey on display from his game vs Jacksonville when he tied Warren Moon for 2nd in most yards in a game behind Norm Van Brockln. I was at that game and it's a complete joke to count it anywhere near Moon's game.
Moon @ Arrowhead in regulation vs *checks notes* Derrick Thomas and the Chiefs went 11-5 that season
Schaub vs Jacksonville in 2012 the first year the NFL implemented modified sudden-death for OT in the regular season. The Texans had 3 OT possessions and the Jaguars went 2-14
Yet the NFL HoF has the Schaub jersey on display? Ick
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:16 am to RohanGonzales
quote:although brief, the span of 96-98 was the best 3 year span an NFL RB has ever had. He was pure greatness that ended due to injury.
but his productive period was only about 4 years
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:22 am to TechDawg2007
I actually think it's debatable - for reasons many stated in this tread.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:23 am to Pimphand
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Definitely seems odd they made him wait for 33 years after retirement.
There are 12 RB’s in the HOF whose careers started after 1980. Craig is 11th in rushing yards, yards from scrimmage, and touchdowns - only behind Terrell Davis (seven seasons) in all three categories.
Craig played well in three Super Bowl wins, but he didn’t take over any of those games individually like Terrell Davis in SB32 or Emmitt Smith in the second half of SB28. Rice and Montana were the stars. He also infamously fumbled away a shot at a threepeat in the 1990 NFCCG.
I said in an earlier post that Craig reminds me a little bit of Troy Aikman. He was a good player who played with better players and has a legacy that is almost exclusively tied to the success of his teams at their peak more than his individual stats or career impact over a long period of time.
I am not necessarily saying Craig doesn’t belong in the HOF, but he was never a surefire candidate either.
ETA: I get the “33 years,” just pointing out some reasons I think he was a fringe candidate who finally got in.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 7:26 am
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:44 am to Globetrotter747
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am not necessarily saying Craig doesn’t belong in the HOF, but he was never a surefire candidate either.
ETA: I get the “33 years,” just pointing out some reasons I think he was a fringe candidate who finally got in.
I mean he's definitely not surefire lock the way Montana, Rice, & Lott were but if you are going to make John Riggins a first ballot hall of famer I don't think Roger Craig should have to wait 33 years that was my only real point.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:29 am to Pimphand
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if you are going to make John Riggins a first ballot hall of famer I don't think Roger Craig should have to wait 33 years that was my only real point.
I'm guessing Riggins got in so quickly because it seemed he carried those Redskins teams from '82-'84. We was SB XVII MVP, setting a single SB game rushing record, and had that memorable run towards the end of the game of 4th &1 that is still shown in highlight reels to this day. The following season, he helped lead the Redskins back to the SB, scoring a then NFL record 24 TDs and being named league MVP.
It is interesting to look at his career, and something I didn't quit realize till just now. That stretch of three seasons where he was so key for Washington, with '83 & '84 being arguably the two best seasons of his career, he was 33, 34 and 35 years old. That is crazy when you consider running backs tend to fall off ALOT when they turn 30/31 years old. The greats Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, Franco Harris and many others. Walter Payton seemed to be one of the very few who still killed it after 30 years old.
Riggins ran for over 1,400 yards and scored 24 TDs at the age of 34. Then followed up the next season with over 1,200 and 14 TDs. That's pretty amazing.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:40 am to TechDawg2007
I think this is what happens when certain teams are blessed with an insane amount of talent. At a certain point voters begin to look for ways to diminish their contributions by painting a guy as someone who benefited from being surrounded by other HOF’ers. The argument is never made that the other HOF’ers benefited by him being on the field. Montana, as great as he was definitely benefited by having a guy of his caliber coming out of the backfield as a receiving threat. Craig also made a huge catch on “the drive” too, setting up the touchdown pass to John Taylor.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:40 am to ragincajun03
I need to be clear I have no issues with Riggins being in the HoF same with Terrell Davis just that it seems weird that Riggins gets in first year, Davis gets in after 15 years, and Roger Craig gets in after 33 is all.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:16 am to Pimphand
I agree with you.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:58 am to TechDawg2007
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Absolutely criminal. He was so fricking good. He should have went in his first year of eligibility
He only had 3 1000 yard seasons only 1 over 1100. Was the first to get 1000/1000 rushing/receiving and that’s only been done 2 other times since so bonus for that. But overall a classic Hall of Very Good player from team that won multiple Super Bowls.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:08 am to ragincajun03
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I'm guessing Riggins got in so quickly because it seemed he carried those Redskins teams from '82-'84.
Riggins was 5th all time in rushing yards when he retired which was a bigger deal. His dominance during the SB years helped.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 10:54 am to ragincajun03
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and had that memorable run towards the end of the game of 4th &1 that is still shown in highlight reels to this day.
Riggins has a large legacy in the NFL. He is the embodiment of the Hogs-era Redskins, and legacy matters a lot.
Craig was never the star of the 49ers - nor did he have that iconic play or game that people remember.
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