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re: How is Jokic not the MVP favorite? Dude is averaging a triple double again.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:13 pm to TigerMan327
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:13 pm to TigerMan327
quote:Oh shite, that’s what I meant. How’s he have so many?
He did get first team all defensive player quite a few times which is not anything similar to being voted MVP
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
He was one of if not the best defender at his position in history
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:27 pm to Madking
There’s not even a way to determine that.
Go watch what some of those games. Defending his position back then was simply being more athletic than the ONE guy you had to guard.
Watch disruptive LeBron defense and watch a Bulls game and tell me LeBron wouldn’t absolutely destroy his man back then.
I cannot believe that anyone could watch them both play defense and come to the conclusion that MJ was better at it.
I’ve seen videos of Jordan teammates blasting his style of defense as terrible team defense. How do you even play terrible team defense when all you’re doing is playing man to man?
Go watch what some of those games. Defending his position back then was simply being more athletic than the ONE guy you had to guard.
Watch disruptive LeBron defense and watch a Bulls game and tell me LeBron wouldn’t absolutely destroy his man back then.
I cannot believe that anyone could watch them both play defense and come to the conclusion that MJ was better at it.
I’ve seen videos of Jordan teammates blasting his style of defense as terrible team defense. How do you even play terrible team defense when all you’re doing is playing man to man?
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:39 pm to Madking
From what I’ve seen and listened to, the guy was either angry/motivated to murder his guy and he played very strong defense because of it, or he was a hotdog selfish defender.
An example would be that poor little foreigner he destroyed in the Olympics because the Bulls drafted him.
Christ if I have to hear another adult talk glowingly about that shite like it’s proof MJ is some GOAT level defender
Michael Jordan is almost assuredly fake news to a significant degree. There are WAY too many things that point to him being a product of ridiculous rules, lesser athletes, media hype, coach + team around him, and watered down league
He’s probably the 2nd best player to ever live. Chance he’s #1, but I really, really doubt it.
An example would be that poor little foreigner he destroyed in the Olympics because the Bulls drafted him.
Christ if I have to hear another adult talk glowingly about that shite like it’s proof MJ is some GOAT level defender
Michael Jordan is almost assuredly fake news to a significant degree. There are WAY too many things that point to him being a product of ridiculous rules, lesser athletes, media hype, coach + team around him, and watered down league
He’s probably the 2nd best player to ever live. Chance he’s #1, but I really, really doubt it.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:50 pm to ReauxlTide222
Those are some pretty nonsensical responses. Lebron was a very good defender at one point but he was exactly what you’re saying about MJ, relying on athleticism which Jordan didn’t do btw and his elite defensive prowess didn’t last very long because of it where MJ was a top level defender even in Washington.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:52 pm to ReauxlTide222
Your second post is complete ignorance and make believe
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:00 pm to Madking
Idk man.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Michael Jordan is almost assuredly fake news to a significant degree. There are WAY too many things that point to him being a product of ridiculous rules, lesser athletes, media hype, coach + team around him, and watered down league
Did you think the NBA started when LeBron was drafted?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:57 pm to chalmetteowl
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mean the advanced stats like him
You post a lot of dumb shite lol
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:11 pm to collegefootballisbroken
What’s even better is that he would rather be home training his horses…,
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:24 pm to chalmetteowl
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he’ll need multiple more championships to get that high on my list
So he needs more team accomplishments to become the greatest individual big.
Makes sense…
Posted on 1/29/25 at 3:35 am to collegefootballisbroken
Do you find the letter D in Nikola Jokic
Neither in his game
Neither in his game
Posted on 1/29/25 at 5:41 am to cubsfan5150
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So he needs more team accomplishments to become the greatest individual big.
You think he’s up there with Shaq, Wilt, Russell, Kareem?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 6:44 am to chalmetteowl
Obviously
He can do things they couldn’t and vice versa
He can do things they couldn’t and vice versa
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:37 am to chalmetteowl
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You think he’s up there with Shaq, Wilt, Russell, Kareem?
They would all have real problems guarding him, especially Shaq.
He's clearly better than Wilt or Russell. Kareem is probably the #3 basketball player of all time (behind MJ and Lebron), so that's much more difficult.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:20 am to CWilken21
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This is the same discussion as Josh Allen vs Lamar Jackson MVP debate
Not really similar at all
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:22 am to chalmetteowl
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You think he’s up there with Shaq, Wilt, Russell, Kareem?
Shaq is my favorite athlete of all time and I think he's right there with Shaq and Kareem and ahead of Russell and Wilt.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:45 am to collegefootballisbroken
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SGA has 6 boards and assist a game and somehow is the favorite?
Without Jokic the Nuggets would be a bottom feeder.
He’s the best big man of all time and probably 3rd best player all time behind Jordan and LeBron.
You know why
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:03 am to jizzle6609
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You know why
Voter fatigue
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