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re: How Good Was Barry Bonds?

Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:18 pm to
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How good was Barry Bonds?


Ask these guys

Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7675 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:21 pm to
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I was a little guy

So was he.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
6944 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:25 pm to
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You are making yourself look really dumb by continuing to state this.
LMAO Then, I'm dumb, prick! Did you play baseball in your life?? Do you know anything about baseball or Bonds' career? I doubt it, but I'm dumb, then you must be a moron.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 8:27 pm
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8612 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:25 pm to
Steroids do nothing for pure baseball talent and hand eye coordination. Also almost all his contemporaries pitching were juicing as well. Ball jumped off his bat like nobody else I’ve seen when I saw him play. He had some ridiculous stat lines and was the only hitter I’ve ever seen that could not be pitched inside. He would turn on literally everything hittable and would take the walks if not.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40006 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:28 pm to
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Argue it out among Sosa/ARod/Palmeiro for second.


There is no argument. Bonds is leaps and bounds better than all of them. The only one that comes close is A Rod, but bonds was much better.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
6944 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:30 pm to
Exactly, but these clowns wannna make it seem as if the man attained these stats through roid abuse. I seriously doubt they knew or saw the guy play his career before roid allegations.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 8:31 pm
Posted by PennsTiger
Member since Feb 2020
282 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:35 pm to
Couldn’t hit shite in the post season in a Pirate uniform…drove me nuts.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8612 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:37 pm to
He also stole a ton of bases before he bulked up and was a gold glove caliber fielder. His early 90’s mvp seasons were nothing to sneeze at yet people act like he sucked before the roid allegations. He was winning mvps left and right.
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
6944 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:44 pm to
I agree, I mentioned the gold gloves in an earlier post, but I'm tired of ranting about it, let them think what they want to.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
6253 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:45 pm to
He was a career .269 batter averaging just under 24 HRs per season and was built like Willie Mays Hays in Major League 2, very slender and known mostly for speed. Suddenly, he became built like Jose Canseco, his head grew three hat sizes and his average and power numbers exploded. People like to excuse his usage with this idea that steroids don’t help you hit a baseball but, from personal experience, they absolutely do and if a .269, 24 hr/year guy is ridiculous the Ryan Klesko deserves to be in the HOF at a career .279, 29 hr/year average.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16945 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:52 pm to
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LMAO Then, I'm dumb, prick! Did you play baseball in your life?? Do you know anything about baseball or Bonds' career? I doubt it, but I'm dumb, then you must be a moron.


Two questions.

Do you think Bonds took steroids?
Do you think Bonds steroid use contributed to him hitting 8 more home runs in his career?
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20110 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:55 pm to
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How good was Barry Bonds?


Overrated
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62241 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:58 pm to

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He was a career .269 batter averaging just under 24 HRs per season and was built like Willie Mays Hays in Major League 2, very slender and known mostly for speed. Suddenly, he became built like Jose Canseco, his head grew three hat sizes and his average and power numbers exploded


Lol. He was on steroids here?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102564 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:58 pm to
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People like to excuse his usage with this idea that steroids don’t help you hit a baseball but, from personal experience, they absolutely do


Tell us more.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8612 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:59 pm to
The steroid allegations and bulking up didn’t start until much later. Players improve a lot over their first 3-4 mlb seasons, so to judge a young bonds on his 24 year old season is rather convenient for you considering he won 3 mvp awards and only hit under .300 twice the next 7 seasons, all arguably before any steroid allegations started. The hate he receives is completely unjustified and I wonder how much is because the media hated him and framed the image in many instances.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Couldn’t hit shite in the post season in a Pirate uniform..


Couldn’t throw out Sid Bream either… lol

I saw Bond a half dozen times a year between 87-92 when he played the Braves in Atlanta. He was by far the best hitter I’ve ever seen in person. Every time he came up it was like ‘well shite what’s he going to do now.’ There were other players that had seasons like that, but it was every year with Bonds.

I can’t say if Bonds would have broken the record without PEDs. He seemed to be on the decline power wise before the 2000 season and then he just exploded and hit 40% of his HRs over the next 7 seasons.

As a Braves fan I’ll always be a little bitter at how he broke Aaron’s record, but I blame MLB more than Bonds. You’ll never convince me that those rat frickers didn’t know the players were juiced and didn’t give two shits bc of the money and ratings.

IMO Bonds was a HOF player before 2000 and nothing that happened after that was unique to him. Keeping him out just proves what a bunch of puckered up assholes the HOF voters are.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6757 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:04 pm to
Meh…Henry Rowengartner struck him out

Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10643 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:06 pm to
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Steroids do nothing for pure baseball talent and hand eye coordination. Also almost all his contemporaries pitching were juicing as well. Ball jumped off his bat like nobody else I’ve seen when I saw him play.


Have you ever seen Giancarlo Stanton? 8 of the 10 fastest exits speeds in 2021 were off his bat just like every year……without steroids. He has only hit 40 HRs once in his career - at age 27. Ken Griffey Jr. had seven 40 HR seasons - ALL before the age of 30. Barry Bonds had eight 40 HR seasons - SEVEN of those seasons were after he turned 31. Tell me how Griffey Jrs talent and hand to eye coordination got worse as he got older but Bonds’s got better and the 40 lbs. of chemically enhanced muscle he added to his frame are just a coincidence.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2604 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:07 pm to
Best I ever saw. Only person in baseball that you would plan your food runs, bathroom breaks, etc. depending upon when he was coming up in the order.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27697 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:24 pm to
If you want to know how good he is, teams have intentionally walked him with the bases loaded in a close game.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 9:25 pm
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