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re: Hornets Board: Tyson Chandler allegedly healthy and opting out
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:59 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/11/10 at 2:59 pm to Lester Earl
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the pick and roll was NON EXISTENT after our playoff run. Tyson Chandler suffered immensely when teams figured out what the Hornets were doing. ANd his rebounding was down as well, to make matters worse. And he was a whiny bitch
So you don't think Tyson was a good fit. Then you would be happy that he was opting out and clearing cap space for moves to be made.
I agree that Okafor got thrown under the bus too quickly, but he's still over paid for what he provides. Statistically he really wasn't down from his normal production considering his reduced minutes. He was what he's always been more or less.
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:00 pm to cajun33tiger
okafor was no where near as good for the hornets as TC was from 06-08. chandler was our defensive anchor and was one of the league leaders in rebounding. okafor played like a bitch most nights.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:01 pm to Lester Earl
chandler hasn't been healthy since may 2008.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:04 pm to cajun33tiger
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Are you sure? Okafor looked miles better than Chandler and he did not have the attitude problems that Tyson has.
It has everything to do with the contract and less to do with play. He has like 5 years left at 13 mill or so a year. Thats absolutely ridiculous for his production.
Okafor might be a really good player in certain situations, but he's undersized, can't run the pick and roll to save his life, and he's not an "above the rim" type player. CP and David West need a 7 footer that can run the pick and roll and play above the rim. Terrible fit. Terrible Contract.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:07 pm to TigerinATL
I'll believe Chandler is "healthy" when I see him play a full season.
The guy had one . . . one . . . great year with the Hornets.
No real offensive game other than the alley oop.
Good rebounder and decent defense, though.
Actually, the Hornets indeed would have been better off if the OKC deal had gone through.
The guy had one . . . one . . . great year with the Hornets.
No real offensive game other than the alley oop.
Good rebounder and decent defense, though.
Actually, the Hornets indeed would have been better off if the OKC deal had gone through.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:08 pm to TigerinATL
He will re-injure himself BOOK IT.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:11 pm to crazytigerfan69
Let me be clear, I don't want TC either. I wish we would have kept him so that we had that contract expiring.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:18 pm to NIH
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chandler hasn't been healthy since may 2008.
he was healthy to start 09, his toe was supposedly healed and he re-injured it later that season.
and he was a shell of his former self, even when healthy that year. Points and rebounds were down. Ally oops were down. Whining at teammates and officials was up.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:21 pm to TigerinATL
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So you don't think Tyson was a good fit. Then you would be happy that he was opting out and clearing cap space for moves to be made.
he was a good fit when we made our run. Because he actually performed, and played with some heart, like he actually cared.
in retrospect after this past season, of course many people wish that we had his numbers coming off the books.
but next to no one thought that at the start of next year, with the possibility of going into the year with a frontline player worthy of the D-league.
like i said, dont count of Okafor yet. A new coach and new system could do him well. A whole year meshing with his new teammates. Throw out his contract; he can still help this team win games and will be an integral piece to the puzzle in 10'
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:01 pm to Lester Earl
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A new coach and new system could do him well. A whole year meshing with his new teammates
I agree
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Throw out his contract
Kinda hard to do
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he can still help this team win games and will be an integral piece to the puzzle in 10'
He was on the bench a lot during the fourth quarter this past season, so I'm not to sure about that, but like you said, maybe with a new coach will change that and he will be a better fit with the Hornets
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:05 pm to TigerinATL
1. Bower had to make moves because Shinn was a cheap frick
2. Why the frick would Chandler opt out? He wont get overpaid again like he was.
2. Why the frick would Chandler opt out? He wont get overpaid again like he was.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:15 pm to rondo
trading for okafor was more costly than keeping chandler for one/two more years.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:27 pm to NIH
Not from a luxury tax perspective.
Trading for a longer contract put 1 million in Shinns pocket. He probably knew he'd be selling so he didnt give a shite longterm.
Trading for a longer contract put 1 million in Shinns pocket. He probably knew he'd be selling so he didnt give a shite longterm.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:39 pm to rondo
probably so. bower still blows.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:47 pm to NIH
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trading for okafor was more costly than keeping chandler for one/two more years.
short term it was a lot cheaper tax/bonus wise
Posted on 6/11/10 at 5:54 pm to TigerinATL
I'd take Chandler over Okafor in a heart beat.
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