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re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:28 am to The Quiet One
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:28 am to The Quiet One
Before the infamous 1984 Orange Bowl, Tom Osborne was 6-4 in bowl games.
Nebraska always got a Top 5 ranking because they breezed through the old Big8 and only had to beat Oklahoma.
Nebraska in the 80's was terrible in bowl games given their ranking.
You would think they would have 20 National Championships because they were overranked.
They were always a good team but people act like 1995 Nebraska was the norm and that was the real Nebraska. That was a blip...and a schedule.
They consistently got out matched or out coached or with more speed. And like I said, 90's SEC wasn't 2000's SEC and Florida was overrated and it showed...but the arse-whooping gets Nebraska pumped up instead of SEC fan taking a look at why Florida dominated the Conference.
SEC was down, Pac10 was way down, Oklahoma was way way down...Nebraska took advantage of all of that. It's not a big surprise that they haven't been relevant since the SEC took over.
Nebraska always got a Top 5 ranking because they breezed through the old Big8 and only had to beat Oklahoma.
Nebraska in the 80's was terrible in bowl games given their ranking.
You would think they would have 20 National Championships because they were overranked.
They were always a good team but people act like 1995 Nebraska was the norm and that was the real Nebraska. That was a blip...and a schedule.
They consistently got out matched or out coached or with more speed. And like I said, 90's SEC wasn't 2000's SEC and Florida was overrated and it showed...but the arse-whooping gets Nebraska pumped up instead of SEC fan taking a look at why Florida dominated the Conference.
SEC was down, Pac10 was way down, Oklahoma was way way down...Nebraska took advantage of all of that. It's not a big surprise that they haven't been relevant since the SEC took over.
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 5:19 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Wasn’t he done in by accusations of being too mean or something?
Allegation was that Leavitt struck a player. He also supposedly interfered with the subsequent investigation by the university.
Coaching at FAU with Taggart now where he enjoys long walks on the beach and tweeting motivational shite you'd read on dorm room wall art.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 5:25 am
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:05 am to jrowla2
quote:has Texas done it the right way, they could of has Saban.
I’d add Texas firing Mack Brown. They’ve not been the same since and prob should have just given him more help and support. He’s clearly a very solid coach
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:14 am to evil cockroach
Jimbo leaving FSU :(
I have little faith in Norvell
I have little faith in Norvell
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:29 am to Jack Ruby
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:53 am to Mizz-SEC
Joe Tiller - Purdue
Tiller inherited a program at Purdue that had only had five winning seasons in the previous 18 years. Tiller then led the Boilermakers to ten bowl berths in twelve years, most notably the 2001 Rose Bowl, led by Drew Brees. Before Tiller got to Purdue, they had only been to 5 bowl games in program history. Since Tiller left in 2007, Purdue has only been to 4 bowl games. Tiller had a run of QB's that was impressive With Drew Brees, Curtis Painter and Kyle Orton. Tiller is also credited with being the first coach to bring the Spread Offense to the B1G. Purdue hasn't been the same since he left.
Tiller inherited a program at Purdue that had only had five winning seasons in the previous 18 years. Tiller then led the Boilermakers to ten bowl berths in twelve years, most notably the 2001 Rose Bowl, led by Drew Brees. Before Tiller got to Purdue, they had only been to 5 bowl games in program history. Since Tiller left in 2007, Purdue has only been to 4 bowl games. Tiller had a run of QB's that was impressive With Drew Brees, Curtis Painter and Kyle Orton. Tiller is also credited with being the first coach to bring the Spread Offense to the B1G. Purdue hasn't been the same since he left.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:12 am to sms151t
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Which is a resignation
Yes you’re right
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:28 am to H. E. Pennypacker
quote:This. USF felt like it was on its way to being a major player and it’s fallen off the earth ever since Levitt was fired.
Jim levitt at USF
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:41 am to I Bleed Garnet
Nebraska isn’t overrated or underrated.
They are thought of exactly how they ought to be.
They were a powerhouse from the 70s and 80s that finally got over the hump in the nineties.
They did that by finally pulling some west coast and east coast skill positions players to go with the beef necks they always had on the lines.
Then Osborne left they fired solich and it all went to hell.
You can still be considered a powerhouse and not have 6 titles.
Hell Michigan is a blueblood and they barely have one in the modern era with a shitty bowl record too.
I would say Nebraska is thought of pretty close to actual.
They are thought of exactly how they ought to be.
They were a powerhouse from the 70s and 80s that finally got over the hump in the nineties.
They did that by finally pulling some west coast and east coast skill positions players to go with the beef necks they always had on the lines.
Then Osborne left they fired solich and it all went to hell.
You can still be considered a powerhouse and not have 6 titles.
Hell Michigan is a blueblood and they barely have one in the modern era with a shitty bowl record too.
I would say Nebraska is thought of pretty close to actual.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:50 am to beaverfever
They were #2 at one point
Posted on 9/16/20 at 7:59 am to SpartyGator
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They were #2 at one point
For about a week before Rutgers knocked them off. Still, they were trending way up.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:05 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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How does he count? The very next coach was close to a BCS bowl game.
It's the next hire that went super bad.
And Monken after Johnson was successful as well.
Bower was a 7 win a year guy and USM has generally been around that after repairing the Johnson disaster.
Southern Miss got too big for their britches when they dumped him.
Bower didn't have a losing season for like his last 14 years. That's hard to do in a nothing/nowhere program like USM. And it was his dream job and he would have stayed there forever.
Now they're a stepping stone school with zero continuity. Plus they've made arguably the worst hiring in the history of college football, and had their most recent coach walk away after the first game of the season.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:07 am to Jack Ruby
I'll try to mention ones i haven't seen.
Jeff Tedford at Cal
WVU running Bobby Bowden out of town
Rich Rod leaving WVU
Gary Pinkle at Missou
Larry Coker at Miami
Jeff Tedford at Cal
WVU running Bobby Bowden out of town
Rich Rod leaving WVU
Gary Pinkle at Missou
Larry Coker at Miami
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:10 am to Buckeye Backer
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Joe Tiller - Purdue
Tiller inherited a program at Purdue that had only had five winning seasons in the previous 18 years. Tiller then led the Boilermakers to ten bowl berths in twelve years, most notably the 2001 Rose Bowl, led by Drew Brees. Before Tiller got to Purdue, they had only been to 5 bowl games in program history. Since Tiller left in 2007, Purdue has only been to 4 bowl games. Tiller had a run of QB's that was impressive With Drew Brees, Curtis Painter and Kyle Orton. Tiller is also credited with being the first coach to bring the Spread Offense to the B1G. Purdue hasn't been the same since he left.
I don't know if one single play has ever changed the fortune of a program like Kyle Orton's fumble against Wisconsin in 2004. Purdue has never recovered from that.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:19 am to VADawg
Southern Miss firing Jeff Bower is one of the worst. USM fired him so they could go to the "next level". They went from a consistently good bowl program flirting with the Top 25 each year and knocking off the big boys, to multiple losing seasons and loser coaches.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:32 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Dr. Tom is the biggest fraud. The media made him out to be a saint compared to that rascal, Barry Switzer. Osborne didn't win shite until he started bringing in absolute thugs and degenerates. Yet, the sports media never called him on the carpet.
ETA: There's actually 2 dipshits who downvoted this. Dr. Tom was more known for choking until he brought the Lawrence Phillips of the world to Lincoln.
ETA: There's actually 2 dipshits who downvoted this. Dr. Tom was more known for choking until he brought the Lawrence Phillips of the world to Lincoln.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 9/16/20 at 8:40 am to sms151t
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Bobby Ross Maryland and Tech
I'd argue Tech losing Friedgen (he was the OC) and O'Leary were bigger losses than Ross.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
You made two absurd statements:
“What we’re seeing now is the real Nebraska”
“Nebraska was always outmatched”
Both are false. Yeah, Nebraska winning 3 NCs in 4 years isn’t the norm, but neither is them going 5-7 and struggling to make a top 25 poll.
For 40 years, Neb went toe-to-toe against everyone. With a handful of exceptions, they were competitive throughout those 4 decades. If the measure is “why did they get beat by Miami and FSU so much”, well, shite, who DIDN’T get beat by Miami and FSU consistently in the 80s and 90s? 80s Miami and FSU were aberrations
Just look at Ohio State. They’re 25-26 in bowl games; similar to Nebraska’s 26-27 bowl record. Since the 1960s, both programs have identical 5 NCs. Why is it “the real Nebraska” we’re seeing where they’re struggling just to finish a season ranked and OSU dominating the league apparently a normal thing? The programs are virtually identical historically.
“What we’re seeing now is the real Nebraska”
“Nebraska was always outmatched”
Both are false. Yeah, Nebraska winning 3 NCs in 4 years isn’t the norm, but neither is them going 5-7 and struggling to make a top 25 poll.
For 40 years, Neb went toe-to-toe against everyone. With a handful of exceptions, they were competitive throughout those 4 decades. If the measure is “why did they get beat by Miami and FSU so much”, well, shite, who DIDN’T get beat by Miami and FSU consistently in the 80s and 90s? 80s Miami and FSU were aberrations
Just look at Ohio State. They’re 25-26 in bowl games; similar to Nebraska’s 26-27 bowl record. Since the 1960s, both programs have identical 5 NCs. Why is it “the real Nebraska” we’re seeing where they’re struggling just to finish a season ranked and OSU dominating the league apparently a normal thing? The programs are virtually identical historically.
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:46 pm to Jack Ruby
Ole Miss, Vaught.
(Also, desegregation.)
(Also, desegregation.)
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:00 pm to Cincinnati Bowtie
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I know it didn’t end well for him there, but he is a classy guy and was a helluva football coach
R.C. Slocum had three major problems, only one of which was his fault.
1. The administration was unwilling to pay top dollar for quality assistant coaches.
2. The administration was unwilling to put any serious effort in modernizing facilities.
3. Slocum was set in his ways.
a. As a defensive coach, he should have stayed the frick out of the offense, but he liked to meddle.
b. He was risk-averse. Case in point: 1999 Sugar Bowl, down 10 with 5 minutes left on the Ohio State 35 on 4th and 1 and he decides to punt.
c. He didn't adapt to changes in recruiting. He wouldn't contact kids until their senior year.
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