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re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs

Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
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He was risk-averse. Case in point: 1999 Sugar Bowl, down 10 with 5 minutes left on the Ohio State 35 on 4th and 1 and he decides to punt


That's as inexcusable and any coaching decision you can make. You could argue a coach should be fired for that alone.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 10:12 pm to
UCLA firing Jim Mora Jr., Tennessee hiring Kiffin, Arizona firing Rich Rod, Washington hiring Neuheisel then Willingham
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13855 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:39 am to
Terry Donahue-UCLA
Sonny Lubick-Colorado St.
June Jones-Hawaii
Lloyd Carr-Michigan
Dennis Erickson-Oregon St.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8751 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:46 am to
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. He was risk-averse. Case in point: 1999 Sugar Bowl, down 10 with 5 minutes left on the Ohio State 35 on 4th and 1 and he decides to punt.



That's not risk-averse.

That's just being a goddamned idiot.
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:03 am to
Vince Gibson, Tulane.

(Tulane's biggests failures was the failure to hire, notably Lindy Infante and Rich Rod).
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2181 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:29 am to
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UCLA firing Jim Mora Jr., Tennessee hiring Kiffin, Arizona firing Rich Rod, Washington hiring Neuheisel then Willingham



Washington’s problem was hiring Mark Emmert. Firing Neuheisel for no reason was a mistake, but not as big as Emmert. Emmert is a swamp creature of the DC sort. At LSU he pandered to the base by hiring Saban to win games, at Washington he pandered to left wing racialists and could care less about tradition or winning football.

Take away the Mark Emmert years (2004-2010) and Washington hasn’t had a losing football season since the mid 1970s
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:41 am to
Washington fans I've seen elsewhere really hate Neuheisel. How is Woodward remembered there?
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2181 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 10:46 am to
I like Rose Bowl Rick. If he was so hated up here he wouldn’t have a weekly segment on KJR.

I like Woodward too. He was the lone bright spot under Emmert IMO. We would not have accomplished the massive stadium remodel without him. He left the Ath. Dept. in much better shape then what he inherited. If you have a chance to attend an event where he is speaking and answering question, go, it is must attend event.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33935 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 1:37 pm to
How about overstaying your welcome that destroyed CFB programs.
I nominate Bobby Bowden and Mack Brown
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Over-reactionary program that thought they should go 12-0 every year because they had 3 dominant years in the 90's and thought the Osborne sellout was the norm.


This is a little insincere. From 1969-1997, Nebraska was the most consistent team in college football. During that particular stretch, they finished outside the AP Top 15 just once. Under Solich's reign (1998-2003), they finished outside of the AP Top 15 three times. Did they make a knee jerk reaction? Probably. But keep in mind that they felt just as entitled as Alabama fans do. If you aren't producing at the level you're expected to produce, you're fired. Unfortunately for Nebraska, they have yet to find their Nick Saban or even their Gene Stallings.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 2:39 pm to
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How about overstaying your welcome that destroyed CFB programs.
I nominate Bobby Bowden and Mack Brown


Bobby Bowden didn't destroy Florida State. Within four seasons of his departure from Florida State, Jimbo Fisher had won a national championship. They were also one of the first four teams to ever make the College Football Playoff in 2014. Fisher is who killed that program. Not Bobby Bowden.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79889 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 3:19 pm to
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Bobby Bowden didn't destroy Florida State. Within four seasons of his departure from Florida State, Jimbo Fisher had won a national championship.


Then why did Bowden's last two teams struggle to make a bowl?
Posted by JimmyMcNulty
Member since Mar 2015
126 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 6:51 pm to
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Georgia Tech hasn't really been competitive since the whole George O'Leary fiasco


Terrible take. Although Chan Gailey did not have success against UGA, he did lead them to the ACC Championship Game. Paul Johnson's teams appeared in the ACC Championship Game three times, winning it once. They also had an Orange Bowl victory...
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103367 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:16 pm to
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Jeff Bower


How does he count? The very next coach was close to a BCS bowl game.

It's the next hire that went super bad.
That hire never happened and that football season never existed.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103367 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:26 pm to
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to multiple losing seasons and loser coaches.
Only losing seasons were 2012-14 when He Who Shall Not Be Named destroyed the program and it took a couple years to recover.

Another problem for Southern Miss is that they used to be one of the only "mid-major" D-1A/FBS programs in their area. Now other schools in the region like South Alabama, Middle Tennessee, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, etc., are all on the same level and grabbing up players who don't make it to SEC schools. Southern Miss used to get more of those players beforehand.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 7:27 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25503 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:05 pm to
It’s amazing to me that Pinkel had Missouri one game away from a National Championship appearance on two occasions. I know he ‘retired’ but I’m sure the Mizzou faithful would disagree?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25503 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Washington hiring Neuheisel then Willingham


Willingham was so fricking awful
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25503 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:12 pm to
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like Rose Bowl Rick. If he was so hated up here he wouldn’t have a weekly segment on KJR.



Never knew Emmert was not well-liked up there. I suppose if what you said is true, then it makes sense. I always thought Rick was a solid. He did well at CU and Washington. I do remember that meltdown against Texas in the Holiday Bowl though..it was on the Longhorn Network the other day I think
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20271 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 11:41 am to
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Nebraska always got a Top 5 ranking because they breezed through the old Big8 and only had to beat Oklahoma.

Nebraska in the 80's was terrible in bowl games given their ranking.

You would think they would have 20 National Championships because they were overranked
That's the fallacy that throws off the current generation.

You don't have to run off a string of titles to be considered elite. Nebraska, like Fla State under Bowden, was known for always being up there in the Top 5.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17133 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Solich for sure. 10 wins wasn’t good enough now can’t make a bowl or even play a season



They did the same thing to Bo.
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