Posted by
Message
sms151t
SMU Fan
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
114410 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Which is a resignation


WaterLink
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4358 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

but Maryland getting rid of Friedgen was dumb IMO


I'll still never forget that speech he gave in the locker room where he told all his players they had his number and he'd talk to them anytime they wanted. Kinda made me tear up a bit if I'm being honest but I come from a coach's family.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
70
ForeverEllisHugh
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
6002 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Petrino of course

But don’t forget Freeze - he had OM right there too.

Those two coaches’ penises did a lot of damage to the parity of the SEC.


Jack Ruby
Memphis Fan
Member since Apr 2014
11354 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

Frank Solich


Solich is definetly a top contender, but Pelini camebin and won 9 games a year very shortly thereafter.

quote:

Mack Brown


Mack needed to go.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
22
Saint Alfonzo
Syracuse Fan
Member since Jan 2019
7471 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
When Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni and hired Greg fricking Robinson we went from a respectable middle of the pack/bowl team to a laughing stock of college football. SU still hasn't fully recovered.


Cincinnati Bowtie
SMU Fan
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11922 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

Slocum to Franchione nearly killed A&M.

I think RC has been seriously underrated. Met him at a Coaches Clinic in the early 90’s and have remained friends. I know it didn’t end well for him there, but he is a classy guy and was a helluva football coach.


Gatorbait2008
Florida Fan
Member since Aug 2015
19448 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Jim Levitt had things rolling at USF. Dude got fricked. I know he was bat shite crazy but he was a damn good coach.


BZ504
LSU Fan
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
2984 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Rich Rodriguez messed his career up by leaving WVU for Michigan. Where is he now?


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
170
sms151t
SMU Fan
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
114410 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Leavitt didn’t get fricked. He’s a maniac. He just couldn’t control himself. He was warned


Cincinnati Bowtie
SMU Fan
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11922 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

Jim Levitt had things rolling at USF. Dude got fricked. I know he was bat shite crazy but he was a damn good coach.

Wasn’t he done in by accusations of being too mean or something?


TD SponsorTD Fan
USA
Member since 2001
Thank you for supporting our sponsors
Advertisement
TexasTiger08
Cleveland St. Fan
Member since Oct 2006
18363 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

John Robinson leaving SC both times killed it


The second time, Robinson’s last two years were 12-11, 7-9 in the PAC 10. It was time. Hackett had those SC and NFL connections, but his tenure as head man for the Trojans was shite.


TigerintheNO
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
34397 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Texas tech Mike Leach


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
130
TexasTiger08
Cleveland St. Fan
Member since Oct 2006
18363 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Bobby Collins was forced out at SMU

Poor guy did nothing but win in Dallas as the Mustangs filled up Texas Stadium. He even brought home a #2 ranking after beating Pitt in the Cotton Bowl. That secured a natty from the Helms ratings system.

Dude never coached in college again after some measly allegations of paying a players a few bucks here and there


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
121
mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
25109 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Paul Hackett was probably the worst Trojan Coach of all-time and yet even he couldn't destroy the program.

It took Pete Carroll 3 years to go from the bottom to National Champions.

You have to be pretty inept as a program to destroy it.

Same with Oklahoma who were dogshite in the 90's and within two years, Stoops won a National Title.

Gerry Faust tried to destroy Notre Dame and within 4 years Lou Holtz had them National Champions.

Great coaches mixed with great programs can always succeed.

So the coaches that destroyed programs were not great programs...they just tasted greatness with a flash in the pan great HC and once he was gone...it went back to mediocrity.
This post was edited on 9/15 at 11:56 pm


TexasTiger08
Cleveland St. Fan
Member since Oct 2006
18363 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Interesting take, but makes sense. A great program will rebound with various coaches. You’ve seen it with Alabama, USC, ND, Texas, Ohio State, etc.

It’s different with Nebraska, as I think the things that helped them recruit in the 90’s are gone. TV exposure, name recognition, etc...all gone, because so many others have the same pitch. In another decade or two, Nebraska will be looked upon as someone like Pitt. If I live long enough, they’ll be looked at like Army, Princeton, etc.


mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
25109 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

It’s different with Nebraska, as I think the things that helped them recruit in the 90’s are gone


The SEC wasn't the SEC in the 90's and all of the 80's...not even close. Nebraska got some of those recruits, Miami, etc.

Nebraska did the worst thing they could've done with Callahan.

They abandoned their identity.

Anybody can chuck the ball around the field and do it much better...other teams have been doing it for decades.

Nebraska tried to re-invent themselves when they had a niche. Nebraska died because of the worst miscalculation...they got greedy and failed to be true to themselves.

And the myth of Nebraska is all about the mid-90's.

From 1980-1993 Nebraska went 4-10 in bowl games. They were always outmatched and usually with speed.

Mid-90's Nebraska was an aberration not the norm. They took guys who other programs wouldn't take. The idea that Nebraska is a fallen program and should be at the top is just based off a few years of dominance. They were consistently exposed in bowl games before the mid-90's.

What we're seeing now is the real Nebraska.
This post was edited on 9/16 at 12:18 am


Teddy Ruxpin
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2006
34757 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

Jeff Bower


How does he count? The very next coach was close to a BCS bowl game.

It's the next hire that went super bad.

And Monken after Johnson was successful as well.

Bower was a 7 win a year guy and USM has generally been around that after repairing the Johnson disaster.
This post was edited on 9/16 at 1:04 am


TexasTiger08
Cleveland St. Fan
Member since Oct 2006
18363 posts
 Online 

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

From 1980-1993 Nebraska went 4-10 in bowl games. They were always outmatched and usually with speed.

Mid-90's Nebraska was an aberration not the norm. They took guys who other programs wouldn't take. The idea that Nebraska is a fallen program and should be at the top is just based off a few years of dominance. They were consistently exposed in bowl games before the mid-90's


Yep. They took some on the chin against Miami and Florida State in the Orange Bowl. Things turned on a dime for them. They lost a close de-facto title game to FSU 18-16. Noles won the ‘93 title. Hell, Nebraska has a chance to win on a last second field goal. Bowden had been doused and everyone came on the field, but they cleared it and put a second back on.

Announcers were hyping the Huskers for keeping it close despite being undefeated, #1, and an underdog.

Next year they were getting handled by Miami, then Cory Schlesinger took over in the second half to give Osborne the elusive title. Next thing you know, NU is boat-racing Florida and Tennessee for titles 2 and 3.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
Jack Ruby
Memphis Fan
Member since Apr 2014
11354 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
quote:

eresting take, but makes sense. A great program will rebound with various coaches. You’ve seen it with Alabama, USC, ND, Texas, Ohio State, etc


I think the ability for big time programs to rebound quickly all lies in their recruiting footprint.

Basically all of those places except maybe ND (who still hasn't won a title since the 80s) are in very fertile recruiting grounds and the previous coaches just really underacheived.

Alabama even in its bad years will still win 5 games or so because of talent alone. They never seem to hit total and compelete rock bottom like a Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, Arkansas, and others.

Same thing with Georgia, Florida, Ohio State, Texas, LSU, etc. Their footprint really won't allow it. That's how these coaches can quickly turn around those teams. There's talent on the roster but it just wasn't being utilized to its potential.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
40
The Quiet One
A Red State
Member since Oct 2013
9441 posts

re: HC firings/resignations that destroyed CFB programs
Nebraska got waxed in 5 straight bowls from 88-92. To act like that was the norm is a reach. Just pull up jhowell’s site and look for yourself.

And those 5 bowl whippings?

88 - lost to 10-1 #2 Miami in the Orange Bowl
89- lost to 9-2 #3 FSU (who had started 0-2) in the Fiesta
90 - lost to 10-0-1 GT (who won split NC) in Citrus
91 - lost to 11-0 NC Miami in the Orange
92 - lost to 10-1 #2 FSU in the Orange

That’s some stout competition. FSU and Miami regularly beat everyone’s asses and then throw in a freak NC-caliber GT team. Sure, Neb got whipped, but them getting whipped was the aberration, not the other way around.

Those other 5 losses during the select period you mentioned? All by 7 points of less and all to teams that finished either #1 or #2 in the AP Poll. A loss is a loss, but they went toe-to-toe during Miami’s and FSU’s heyday, usually in their backyard. They weren’t routinely “outmatched” by any metric.

In the 19 years before ‘88, Nebraska went 12-7 in bowls and their biggest defeat was 7 points, which only happened twice...one of those being a rematch against a 1-loss Oklahoma team they had beaten during the regular season and the other to National Champion Clemson. What part screams “outmatched” here?

Nebraska was a national powerhouse and aside from that 5-year span of facing Miami, FSU and GT, held their own as well as anyone. The idea Nebraska just got wrecked in bowl games on the regular is fiction.
This post was edited on 9/16 at 1:52 am


first pageprev pagePage 3 of 6next pagelast page

Back to top

logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram