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Hall of Fame debate: Is Joey Votto worthy of the HOF?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:01 pm
Had a discussion with a few buds around this, I personally think there was only 1 first baseman from that era that was better (Pujols). Majority of buds disagreed on that even though I made the argument that Votto’s stats outweigh Fred McGriff (another controversial HOF take)
Pros:
- 63 career war (if you’re into that)
- 6x All-Star, 1x MVP, 1x GG
- .920 career OPS
Negatives:
- Only 350 career homers
- a lot of competition to get in at the first base position.
What’s the MSB’s verdict?
Pros:
- 63 career war (if you’re into that)
- 6x All-Star, 1x MVP, 1x GG
- .920 career OPS
Negatives:
- Only 350 career homers
- a lot of competition to get in at the first base position.
What’s the MSB’s verdict?
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:05 pm to MasterAbe1
2,135 hits in 17 seasons. No.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:08 pm to MasterAbe1
He'll get in easily.
By JAWS metric he's an average hall of famer at 1st base. That plus his broad appeal personally? Done deal
By JAWS metric he's an average hall of famer at 1st base. That plus his broad appeal personally? Done deal
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:12 pm to MasterAbe1
Uhhhh yes lol
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:27 pm to MasterAbe1
Canadian Hall of Fame no doubt
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:31 pm to MasterAbe1
never heard of her
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:32 pm to MasterAbe1
Hall of Very Good
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:51 pm to Murph4HOF
That’s fair, spin-off question: Is Goldschmidt a HOF?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:52 pm to MasterAbe1
I say no, but Harold Baines has opened the floodgates.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 5:25 pm to MasterAbe1
No. If you have to think about it someone isn't a Hall of Famer.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:04 pm to A12 Oxcart
quote:
2,135 hits in 17 seasons. No.
Candidacy at 1B is not defined by hits. Votto led the league in BB 5x. He is 2nd all time amongst 1B in BB behind Bagwell. It’s hard to accumulate hits when you are walking
If Todd Helton and Fred Mcgriff are HOF’ers, then he is a shoe-in.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:12 pm to MasterAbe1
He will end up getting in
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:33 pm to MasterAbe1
Not guilty. Wait. What was the question?
Yes, he's a HoF'er.
Yes, he's a HoF'er.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:50 pm to TexasTiger08
What fans don’t understand is that the people who control the Hall of Fame … and it belongs to a family in Cooperstown, not to MLB or the fans, it’s a private organization … want the flood gates open, they want new people coming in every year because if they don’t have a big induction ceremony every year it’s devastating to the economy there.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:10 pm to MasterAbe1
He should get in . But so should have Dale Murphy…
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:35 pm to MasterAbe1
Hell yes he is.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:35 pm to MasterAbe1
One bullshite away voter from a 2xMVP
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Votto led the league in BB 5x. He is 2nd all time amongst 1B in BB behind Bagwell. It’s hard to accumulate hits when you are walking
Whoever said a walk was as good as a hit, couldn’t hit…
(Yes that used to hang on the wall at Grand Slam USA in Elmwood)
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:13 pm to InkStainedWretch
quote:
What fans don’t understand is that the people who control the Hall of Fame … and it belongs to a family in Cooperstown, not to MLB or the fans, it’s a private organization …
That’s the same for the football HOF.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:17 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
If Todd Helton and Fred Mcgriff are HOF’ers, then he is a shoe-in
McGriff was a Veteran's Committee selection and Helton had to wait to slide in.
Votto will eventually get there. Most of the "Hall of Very Good" guys eventually get in through the back door via a coordinated campaign before they fall off the ballot or a reprieve from the Veterans Committee.
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