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re: Fox Sports Greatest NFL QBs of All-Time
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:53 pm to Gen Patton
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:53 pm to Gen Patton
Top 5 is all thats needed:
1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Unitas
5) Marino
You can out the rest in any order you want.
These are the best 5 quarterbacks to play the game
1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Unitas
5) Marino
You can out the rest in any order you want.
These are the best 5 quarterbacks to play the game
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:54 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
His top 5 in Super Bowls
1) 7-3
2) 4-0
3) 2-2
4) 3-2
5) 2-3
His #1, #5, #9 selections have Super Bowl wins vs. others in his Top 10
His #2 defeated two of his Top 10 in Super Bowls
1) 7-3
2) 4-0
3) 2-2
4) 3-2
5) 2-3
His #1, #5, #9 selections have Super Bowl wins vs. others in his Top 10
His #2 defeated two of his Top 10 in Super Bowls
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:56 pm to H-Town Tiger
Elway was a good runner earlier in his career. It's crazy how much Mahomes resembles him physically with the barrel chest and they both kind of run the same way.
Stabler and Burrow to some extent too although Kenny was obviously a lefty had more of a 3/4 delivery.
Stabler and Burrow to some extent too although Kenny was obviously a lefty had more of a 3/4 delivery.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Elway was a good runner earlier in his career. It's crazy how much Mahomes resembles him physically with the barrel chest and they both kind of run the same way.
both had baseball backgrounds
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:01 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
2023:
Joe Montana didn't hesitate telling Men's Health his pick for the best QB of all time: Miami Dolphins legend Dan Marino.
“Put Marino into today’s game where he gets free release...and his receivers, holy cow, weren't very big," Montana proclaims. "Now these guys are 6'4," 6'5." I think [Marino] is probably one of the most unsung heroes of the game. People don't talk enough about him or realize the numbers that he put up during the times that he put them up."
Beyond Marino's physical prowess, Montana's steely blue eyes lit up when remembering the disadvantages Marino overcame to put up the eighth-most passing yards ever and seventh-most passing touchdowns ever. Remember, Marino and Montana played in an era of football when 350-pound linebackers could press their full body weight on a quarterback after tackling them and freely target their lower extremities. Now quarterbacks are the most protected they ever have been, and Montana can't help but wonder how dominant the best QB ever would be in this era.
Joe Montana didn't hesitate telling Men's Health his pick for the best QB of all time: Miami Dolphins legend Dan Marino.
“Put Marino into today’s game where he gets free release...and his receivers, holy cow, weren't very big," Montana proclaims. "Now these guys are 6'4," 6'5." I think [Marino] is probably one of the most unsung heroes of the game. People don't talk enough about him or realize the numbers that he put up during the times that he put them up."
Beyond Marino's physical prowess, Montana's steely blue eyes lit up when remembering the disadvantages Marino overcame to put up the eighth-most passing yards ever and seventh-most passing touchdowns ever. Remember, Marino and Montana played in an era of football when 350-pound linebackers could press their full body weight on a quarterback after tackling them and freely target their lower extremities. Now quarterbacks are the most protected they ever have been, and Montana can't help but wonder how dominant the best QB ever would be in this era.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
Lets be real, if Brees played in Marino's era, he wouldn't last a decade. If Marino plays in Brees' era, he's throwing for 60 TDS and 6k yards annually.
Not to mentioned Brees played most of his career in a dome as well in a warm weather division. Marino played outdoors while in the same division as the Bills, Jets, Pats, Colts.
Not to mentioned Brees played most of his career in a dome as well in a warm weather division. Marino played outdoors while in the same division as the Bills, Jets, Pats, Colts.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:11 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Unitas
5) Marino
I don't disagree with the placement of any of these since they're all historically significant and really helped the passing game grow to where it is now
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:11 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Joe Montana didn't hesitate telling Men's Health his pick for the best QB of all time: Miami Dolphins legend Dan Marino.
So a guy picks one of his contemporaries that’s not surprising or unusual. If Marino played today his numbers would probably be like top guys of the last 2 decades. He was awesome but this lists frankly long ago jumped the shark. You like Montana are old so naturally favor the guys from when you were younger just like young guys will favor more recent guys.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:18 pm to Tusk Till Dawn
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Lets be real, if Brees played in Marino's era, he wouldn't last a decade. If Marino plays in Brees' era, he's throwing for 60 TDS and 6k yards annually.
Nothing says “real” like highly speculative unprovable opinions
Hyperbole like “this guy I love from the past” would have unprecedented stats today is just silly. If Marino played today his stats would be like PManning Brady, Rogers and Mahomes etc.
As for Brees he’s roughly the same size as Fran Tarkenton who played before Marino and before they changed the rules to favor passing in 1978
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
Rodgers is the benchmark for me. He's the greatest passer I've ever seen and I watched a lot of Dan. I don't think Marino would have been better than Aaron in this era.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:30 pm to TigerintheNO
Marino is overrated. He was mediocre when it mattered most. Not just in the NFL but in college. The 1980 Pitt team had four NFL Hall of Famers and multiple pro bowlers and still shite the bed.
I don’t know that Marino should have won a ring in the NFL because the NFC was hell during the prime of his career, but (if truly the GOAT) he should have at least made it to another Super Bowl because the AFC sucked and Miami always had solid to good teams. He also played for two HOF coaches in a warm weather city conducive to the passing game.
I think people overemphasize Marino’s 1984-1986 stretch within the context of a 17 year career.
Yes, Marino was a great QB. But, say, top five all time? I don’t think he was good enough in the big moments.
I don’t know that Marino should have won a ring in the NFL because the NFC was hell during the prime of his career, but (if truly the GOAT) he should have at least made it to another Super Bowl because the AFC sucked and Miami always had solid to good teams. He also played for two HOF coaches in a warm weather city conducive to the passing game.
I think people overemphasize Marino’s 1984-1986 stretch within the context of a 17 year career.
Yes, Marino was a great QB. But, say, top five all time? I don’t think he was good enough in the big moments.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:34 pm to Diseasefreeforall
quote:
Anderson and Fouts were both better than Bradshaw not to mention Staubach. Any of those guys would have been an upgrade for the Steelers.
Fouts was a much better QB than Bradshaw and if you swap them, Fouts would have more than 4 Super Bowls and Bradshaw might not even be in the HOF.
And you can't talk about "era's" because they both played in the same damn era.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:39 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:
but why attack the basketball fans for wanting to win
They lost 1 game on the road to Florida St who finished the regular season ranked #2. They finished #3* and got screwed out of the Sugar Bowl vs #1 UGA for Notre Dame because back then the size of the fanbase that would travel took precedent over better matchups
* the regular season Pitt was #2 after the Bowls if ND had beaten UGA Pitt probably would’ve been #1
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:48 pm to Diseasefreeforall
quote:
Staubach
Staubach started 44 less games than Bradshaw and only has 5,000 fewer yards.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
Or like when they changed the rules in 03-04 so the defense couldn’t mug the receivers? Or after that when you could touch the qb without getting a roughing the passer?
Brees would have gotten crushed in the 80s-90s just like Montana did. Brees is a great qb but nowhere near as great as Marino.
Fran was mobile in a similar way Archie was.
Brees would have gotten crushed in the 80s-90s just like Montana did. Brees is a great qb but nowhere near as great as Marino.
Fran was mobile in a similar way Archie was.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:58 pm to tigerdup07
quote:
steve young was better than montana and he's not even on the list.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:06 pm to Tusk Till Dawn
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Or like when they changed the rules in 03-04 so the defense couldn’t mug the receivers?
The changes in 1978 were even more drastic.
quote:
Brees would have gotten crushed in the 80s-90s just like Montana did
I seem to remember Montana being pretty good at times
quote:
Brees is a great qb but nowhere near as great as Marino.
Well that’s like your opinion man
Both are HOF QBs
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:11 pm to tigerdup07
quote:.
steve young was better than montana and he's not even on the list.
More talented maybe. Better? No
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:43 pm to Jenious
quote:
Fouts was a much better QB than Bradshaw and if you swap them, Fouts would have more than 4 Super Bowls and Bradshaw might not even be in the HOF.
Of all the sports, football is a truly team game....it takes A LOT of players on your team, offense, defense, special teams, etc. to win. Steel Curtain was Bradshaw's best friend. Hell Noll didn't even want to start him half the time.
Judging QBs by rings is stupid. I'm not in that Camp.
I'm in the skill-set production Camp....how much better are you than your peers?
There's been 3 QBs who dwarfed their peers if the NFL had WAR....better version of QBR.
Roger Staubach
Otto Graham
Joe Montana
Modern era, Manning, Brady, etc. didn't dwarf their peers, I mean some average QBs were right behind them.
The average QB rating in 1972 was like 60....Roger Staubach was around 100 for a few years. In 1980, after he retired he was #2 all-time career passer rating..behind who? Still Otto Graham.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:00 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:
The 1980 Pitt team had four NFL Hall of Famers and multiple pro bowlers and still shite the bed.
Marino missed more than half that season due to injury, Marc Tracano relieved him
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