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re: Foreman winning the Heavyweight Title at 45 is one of the greatest achievements in sports

Posted on 7/8/26 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 6:27 pm to
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The scrutinization of mid 80s to 90s boxing is really strange. Things that were celebrated all throughout boxing history started to become dismissed or seen as cheap.


It truly is. And the dismissing of Tyson is retarded at best. I grew up in the 70’s, 80’s, it was premier then.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
Exactly, for example when Holmes beat Ali or when Ali beat Liston we didn’t get this “well he was old so it doesn’t count” BS. Even when Tyson beat Holmes it didn’t happen but once Tyson lost to Lennox people began to rewrite history. You look at someone like Ken Norton beating Ali, that elevated him to where everyone knows his name, as it should’ve, but look at the rest of his wins, they’d be called tomato cans if he were subjected to the type of scrutiny we see given to post 80s fighters. IMO boxing was bigger and title fights were on national TV prior to the 90s so the normie fan had a better understanding of what great fighters were where the post pay per view era normies only tuned in for mega fights, the general audience lost the proper awareness of boxing. Imagine a heavyweight going through the title tourney Tyson went through today. It’s unheard of to fight that many times in such a short span and for good reason but you’ll never see it brought up in discussion because many people don’t even realize it happened.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 7:17 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
13130 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:26 pm to
They always say your punching power is the last thing to go

Michael Moorer found that out the hard way.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2461 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:04 pm to
Impressive nonetheless but the best thing George did was lend his name to a kitchen grill...
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36592 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:13 pm to
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Was boxing already past its prime?


Yes, definitely.



The late 1980's to early 1990's is considered a Golden Era of HeavyWeight Boxing.




Some consider it to be the last Great Era of the Heavyweight Division.
Posted by RedSoloSpitCup
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Holmes beat Ali


Yes you did. Ali sycophants claimed "If Holmes fought Ali in his prime...."

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Ali beat Liston


Liston was possibly 40 years old depending on his actual birthdate.

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Tyson beat Holmes


Holmes was well past his prime and inactive, but people were enamored with Tyson so they didn't care Larry was old.

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Tyson lost to Lennox people began to rewrite history.


Lennox was OLDER than Tyson. He also didn't get a 3.5 year break in the middle of his career to rest. Lennox was just better. Ditto Holyfield.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
72261 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:01 pm to
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He also didn't get a 3.5 year break in the middle of his career to rest.



Lmfao
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:30 pm to
Laugh all you want. Doesn't change the fact that Tyson is the most overrated heavywieght in history. One legit win was against Spinks and he was at the end of his career. Didn't beat any legit fighters in their prime except maybe Tony Tucker. Knocked out by Douglas, struggled with Ruddock, 0-3 against the two best heavyweights of his era.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
72261 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:57 pm to
But you’re making my point, arguing that going to prison benefited Tyson is completely nonsensical and a great example of the retroactive, false narrative building the other poster and I are talking about. Labeling a very poor and ignorant option as fact is just the cherry on top. Besides, nobody was ranking heavyweights so injecting a straw man into the point being discussed is more proof you’re just parroting an opinion of something you didn’t witness and have a very limited view on.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
1100 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 8:32 pm to
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It was the only reason Rocky Balboa defeated Ivan Drago in that epic match back in ‘85.


Hate to break it to you…
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38252 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 8:48 pm to
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You don’t even have to be athletic to excel at golf. It’s a skill game like darts and bowling.



Or soccer.
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