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re: ESPN loses another 453,000 Subscribers from June to July

Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:39 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64221 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:39 am to
Overall not a huge deal, but expect cable companies to treat this like the rapture and raise our prices sky high.

The reason they're losing customers is because their programming sucks. The only reason they're still viable is because of the live sports contracts they have. If people had a choice between ESPN and TNT/CBS broadcasts, 10/10 times people would chose the latter.

ESPN is dull, agenda-driven, preachy, SJW nonsense that anyone with functioning brain cells despises.
Posted by one five
BATON ROUGE LA
Member since May 2016
52 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:53 am to
I think that ESPN is hiring announcers ( see CWS) that they find in some homeless shelter. The analysts are better, at least they know baseball. Some of the announcers don't know appeal play from force out.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/11/16 at 11:55 am to
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Why does ESPN get singled out?

ESPN costs about 5 times more than any other channel of a cable bundle, so the loss of subscribers hits them much harder.

They didn't just randomly lose subscribers this month. They've lost 10 million subscribers since 2013. They've lost 1.5 million from Feb-May this year. Each subscriber is worth about $80/year to ESPN. You can do the math.. that hurts.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464115 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Why does ESPN get singled out?

they're the most expensive regular cable channel i think and typically on a particular "expensive" tier
Posted by LSUstudent4life
Houston
Member since May 2008
1975 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:03 pm to
I wonder what this looks like when you figure in how many people have subscribed to Sling TV over the same time frame.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14419 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:03 pm to
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The reason they're losing customers is because their programming sucks.

No one "subscribes" to ESPN. You get ESPN as a part of a cable bundle. They are losing customers because more and more people are cord cutting. For people who don't watch sports at all cutting the cord, the quality of ESPN's programming has nothing to do with it.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161594 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
as service providers lose more and more subscribers they're going to start looking at the guy that charges them the most for content....and ESPN won't be backing down because they have been paying out the arse for broadcast rights. ESPN wanted their little monopoly on carrying sports and is about to have to start picking up that tab
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
ESPN takes on more social and political stances than ever before and it's off putting.

I want to watch sports, not some 60 year old Olympian get an award for wanting to cut his dick off.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40131 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:21 pm to
How does this compare to people just cutting cable/satelite?

ESPN main channel is on pretty much every single basic package, so everyone that cuts the cord also cuts ESPN.

My guess is a good number of those cord cutters would pay $10/month for a package of ESPN channels purchased online.

ESPN isn't going out of business but the entire pay tv model is reaching a tipping point. ESPN because their fees are so high, is going to take the brunt of it.

I'm curious to compare this fall's MNF ratings to past years. If he ratings are falling, that tells me that people are cutting ESPN and watching the games elsewhere by sharing. If the ratings don't fall, that tells me that the cord cutters aren't sports fans.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17064 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:24 pm to
The Skip Bayless effect
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:26 pm to
Now if only jackasses would stop giving out their provider passwords to the moochers...errr cord-cutters. The providers will get it figured out at some point and/or ESPN will find a way to offer a streaming-only package.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:29 pm to
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Longhorn Network



This is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.


Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
14419 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3285 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:30 pm to
salty AF
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91305 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

I think that ESPN is hiring announcers ( see CWS) that they find in some homeless shelter.

Karl Ravich? Dude he's been at ESPN for nearly 2 decades
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464115 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:31 pm to
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Now if only jackasses would stop giving out their provider passwords to the moochers

yeah it always cracks me up when people talk about the superiority of "cutting the cord" while advocating for stealing content
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66036 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:37 pm to
The OT was always funny on this before the tech board materialized. People usually get called out on here for being cheap, yet it seemed like most of the people bragging about cutting the cord were jumping through all kinds of hoops and borrowing passwords to save like $50 a month.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:37 pm to
the reason they're losing customers is bc we want ala carte programming, nobody wants your garbage bundle. I had the U-450 from ATT before I cut the cord and like 90% of the programming was garbage plus it was repetitive like HBO, HBO-W, and HBO-E which all play the same thing but at EST,CST,and PST and thats just ridiculous that would count as 3 channels. Sports is their only hope and thats under major attack. You could buy mlb.tv for $100/yr and have every game, you can buy NBA league pass or NFL sunday ticket.

If they have any hope of survival its allowing people to bundle what they want. I personally would stay if I could tailor a package with fox,abc,nbc,cbs,espn,cnn,cnbc,fox news, tbs,tnt. Thats all I want. Give me that, let me pay for what I want only and I would've stayed.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:38 pm to
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yeah it always cracks me up when people talk about the superiority of "cutting the cord" while advocating for stealing content


So you pay for every song you listen to as well as every porno you jerk off too??? If you do cool, otherwise you're a hypocrite right now.

I do pay for Netflix,Hulu,and amazon prime

Sports there is no need for me to pay for bc my firestick has it all, technically I could cut nflx,hulu as well but the quality is a lot better on those two bc not every single show/movie can be viewed in 1080p on kodi, but most can.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28378 posts
Posted on 7/11/16 at 12:39 pm to
That's what pushing a liberal agenda when you are suppose to be showing sports will get you.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 12:41 pm
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