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re: ESPN LA's Bobby Marks: AD not going to waive his trade kicker

Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:52 am to
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:52 am to
no because if they add a third team then lake show will need to negotiate with that team to move back the official trade date

this all depends on kawhi
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 8:53 am to
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no because if they add a third team then lake show will need to negotiate with that team to move back the official trade date



Uh no. It changes nothing. It’s happening on the 6th regardless of what happens on draft night.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:03 am to
But Summer league starts on the 5th and is over well before the 30th. So wouldn’t that 3rd team want their guy to start playing summer league with them? Are you saying that the LAL would have to give that 3rd team compensation too in order to move back the date or are you suggesting that by adding the 3rd team it pushes back the allowable, official completion date because there is now a third team?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:03 am to
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? Are you saying that the LAL would have to give that 3rd team compensation too in order to move back the date


yup
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:06 am to
What compensation can they even give at this point?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:13 am to
Kuzma or Wagner

depends if you guys trade the pick because that is who lake show will need to negotiate with on processing date
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:17 am to
So how does this help your argument? I would agree that a 3rd team would be much more willing to help out the Lakers than the Pels, since the Lakers success directly impacts the Pels future. But this just raises few more questions I have for you:

1. Doesn’t this mean that the Pels still have the leverage? i.e. cant the Pels just not agree to deal the pick to a team that will push the date back? Or can’t they find out who another team wants, tell the Lakers to take that player, and just sit on him until the 6th? Would the change in date be material to the Pels and therefore need to be agreed on by them?

2. Why do you think any 3rd team would be willing to help the Lakers out here? Do you think that a western team would want to help the Lakers put together a super team if they can prevent it? Don’t you think a small market team like, say IND, would not want to help perpetuate this idea that big market teams can bully small market teams to give up their star players?

3. What more can the Lakers actually give?

Look, I’m not saying that this deal doesn’t somehow go through until the 30th, but if looking at the two dates logically, it’s hard to believe that the 6th isn’t the more realistic date as we stand here today.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:19 am to
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that is who lake show will need to negotiate with on processing date



No. They will still need to deal with the Pels too. Come on man.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27517 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:24 am to
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. They will still need to deal with the Pels too. Come on man.



He's spinning out of control.

Lakers better hope they can get some solid 2nd tier FA's.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63398 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:24 am to
Do you ever say anything correct
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:25 am to
1. I really believe pels want this deal done as much as Lake show, in that sense, both teams are going to work together to get it done. so the leverage exists both ways.

2. it's a fair point and adding a third team makes this really complicated. offering a kuzma for ex to push back processing date is more than a reasonable deal.

it depends on kawhi dude. it will process on the 6th unless he says he wants to play with lake show.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:27 am to
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They will still need to deal with the Pels too. Come on man.


processing date only depends on the 4th pick dude.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:28 am to
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you ever say anything correct


everything I've said is correct. I've read the cba over 30x
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130242 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:29 am to
The Pelicans lose no matter what if it’s done on the 30th. That isn’t happening without significant value to them.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98005 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:30 am to
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everything I've said is correct. I've read the cba over 30x


Dude fr just stop u a foo 100
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:31 am to
true that part makes the #4 interesting

also Garland is klutch sports further making this a doozy lol

one of the craziest trades ever. I love it
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:34 am to
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A. Pelinka gives griffin whatever he asks for, even if it's Kuzma and/or an additional unprotected 1st rounder


Would the lakers have a starting 5 if this happens? They gonna play 3on3 ball until next season?
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:35 am to
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pels don't have leverage. trust that 100


quote:

leverage exists both ways


I’m glad that you’ve changed your tune in less than 12 hours....At least you are starting to come around
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
25954 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn

Lakers are trying to expand Anthony Davis trade and create ability to open max salary slot on July 6, sources tell @BobbyMarks42 and me. Lakers offering contracts of Mo Wagner/Jemerrio Jones/Isaac Bonga to additional teams, so LA can satisfy CBA rules on creating $32M in space.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150131 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:07 pm to
I think I posted a tweet a day or two ago that mentioned that as a possibility. Wonder if we would just attach those players onto the 3rd team trading for the 4th pick. Still a disaster of a situation that had no reason to exist
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