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re: ESPN LA's Bobby Marks: AD not going to waive his trade kicker

Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:31 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:31 am to
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Ok so this came from Ramona, who appears to be technically correct, but also missing a key piece.

So it looks like you cannot send the trade terms to the NBA for processing and tell them to hold on to it until the 30th just in case. But Griff and Pelinka could theoretically just not send the trade to the NBA for finalization until later.
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:36 am to
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Pelinka forgoes an opportunity at a 3rd max player and fills the roster out with their 24 million in cap space


I actually think they might do this. It would not shock me at all of they get guys like Boogie and Melo to sign for cheap. Then maybe they get Deangelo to come back and pick up a JJ Reddick to plug into SG with say the remaining 18-20 million

Rondo/Russell
Reddick
Lebron
AD
Boogie

You have Kuzma off the bench
With Javelle
Lance Stephenson
Caruso
Melo
Other vet minimums
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 12:38 am
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:38 am to
Caruso is a name I love to see

did a two hour YouTube session on him yesterday
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:38 am to
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But Griff and Pelinka could theoretically just not send the trade to the NBA for finalization until later.

yes. this is what would happen. this is what happened with the wiggins/love trade. they just simply waited to submit the trade on the 30th when wiggins was actually available to be traded unless im remembering incorrectly
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 12:41 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:42 am to
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yes. this is what would happen


I just feel like we would have heard that from someone on the Lakers side if that was indeed the case. Why keep that a secret?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:45 am to
because pelinka didnt negotiate that into the deal and because there is such an obvious benefit for the lakers, it will have to be negotiated. maybe they are doing it right now, idk. but i have a hard time believing the lakers wont move mountains to get this moved back if they get any kind of assurances from kawhi or kyrie
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:51 am to
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yes. this is what would happen. this is what happened with the wiggins/love trade. they just simply waited to submit the trade on the 30th when wiggins was actually available to be traded unless im remembering incorrectly


You're right.

But that trade wasn't negotiated until late July/early august. Wiggins signed with the Cavs on the July 24th and was officially traded 30 days later. The deal that sent him to the Wolves didn't get reported until August 7. A bit different than this deal.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:52 am to
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pels don't have leverage.

Said every Lakers fan shortly before finding out the details of the trade.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:09 am to
this is all a ruse.

ad will sign with the pels after next season.

underwater 6d chess and whatnot.
Posted by 1ranter1
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:13 am to
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get guys like Boogie and Melo to sign for cheap. Then maybe they get Deangelo to come back and pick up a JJ Reddick to plug into SG with say the remaining 18-20 million




Start with 24 mil, sign Boogie and Russell, and somehow still have 18-20 mil for SG



Out of all the ridiculous Laker logic that has to take the cake. Russell is about to get PAID
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:34 am to
LOL at Lakers fans
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:35 am to
AD is greedier than even Drew Brees.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6754 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:20 am to
Lakers back out the deal and Pelicans simply keep AD for the year and force LA to punt another year of LeBron's time in LA

You really want to run the risk of pissing off LeBron and Rich Paul? They would ask to be traded. Pelicans have all the leverage bc the deal has already been agreed to. Lakers backing out of a deal now is how you get blackballed from other teams.

Go ahead and back out LA. No other team will deal or trade any player with you.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:45 am to
Griff: "not waiting until 30th for you guys"

Rob: "we are leaving the deal then"

Griff: "Cool, see you in the lottery again next year"

Rob: "ok we change our minds"

To act like the Pelicans have no leverage is ridiculous. Can you imagine the Media shite-storm the Lakers would have to wade through after having AD and then it falling apart later? Lakers 2.0 would pretty much be confirmed and they would be ridiculed mercilessly for overlooking a detail that eventually derailed the deal.

The fact of the matter is both teams want to get this done. Lakers get a superstar and the Pels get the future. Win-win
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:52 am to
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pels do not have leverage

no other team offered them anything. that's facts

the primary issue is Klutch saying AD won't sign anywhere else. if the Lakers rescind this deal, then he ain't going to LA

so then what? the leverage to force AD to LAL would be gone and AD wouldn't be able to go there, so Klutch would have to revise things
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:52 am to
Pels obviously have no leverage.

Do yall even Space Jam 2?
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 6:54 am to
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pels do not have leverage

They absolutely do right now. The deal has been agreed to, if the Lakers want to push it back the Pels have all of the leverage. What are the Lakers going to do, back out of the trade? No team would ever trade with them again if they did that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:00 am to
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Can you imagine the Media shite-storm the Lakers would have to wade through after having AD and then it falling apart later?

can we all imagine the locker room turmoil all year?

they'd basically become laughing stocks of the league and would have to scramble, AFTER the draft most likely, to deal ingram, ball, etc.

for what? Jimmy Butler?

i mean if you want to talk about leverage, 28 teams would have the most insane leverage imaginable against LAL if they pull out
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:03 am to
As usual, LoLakers
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 7:12 am to
Even if AD does waive his trade bonus it won’t be enough considering the market for these FAs which denote $34-38 million even for someone like Kemba Walker. The only high-profile FA they have a chance in hell of acquiring while still filling out a roster is DeAngelo Russell at $20 mil which would be great irony since they traded his arse lol.
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