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re: Eli Manning and Antonio Gates are among 15 finalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:29 pm to PeteRose
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:29 pm to PeteRose
quote:
Never came close to win league mvp, never made all pro.
Neither did Troy Aikman and he got in first ballot. He did win 3 Super Bowls(MVP of one) so I guess Eli needed one more Super Bowl to be a lock.
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:35 pm to bluestem75
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Manning’s success happened only when the Giants had elite defenses
What elite defenses? Are you talking about the 2007 defense when the Giants gave up the most points in the regular season out of all the playoff teams? The 2011 defense were the same, giving up a whopping 400 points. Only seven teams gave up more points than the Giants in 2011.
Plus, they didn't have any All-Pro's in 2007, just one Pro Bowler in Osi Umenyiora. In 2011, they had Jason Pierre Paul as their only defensive All-Pro and Pro Bowler. Those were some elite defenses, I tell you. They were on par with the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:41 pm to SPEEDY
The class will be:
Manning
Gates
Evans
Suggs
J. Allen
The class should be:
Gates
Evans
J. Allen
Suggs
Anderson
Manning
Gates
Evans
Suggs
J. Allen
The class should be:
Gates
Evans
J. Allen
Suggs
Anderson
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:53 pm to SPEEDY
You know the Hall can't resist the "two bros in the HOF at the same position" storyline.
I wonder when LeBron and Bronny make an offer the NBA HOF can't refuse.
I wonder when LeBron and Bronny make an offer the NBA HOF can't refuse.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:58 pm to SPEEDY
Weak group if I must say.
There's like 2-3 "ya I guess" and a bunch of good players who had good careers but nothing hall of fame worthy.
There's like 2-3 "ya I guess" and a bunch of good players who had good careers but nothing hall of fame worthy.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 4:14 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Jared Allen
tGOAT sack celebration
Posted on 12/28/24 at 9:31 pm to SPEEDY
Steve smith should absolutely get in in over Reggie Wayne or Holt and it shouldn’t be close.
Steve smith put up the same or better receiving numbers than Reggie Wayne or Holt while playing with Jake delhomme instead of hall of fame QBs putting up absurd passing numbers.
And Steve smith was just a more dynamic player over all. He was arguably the best return man early in his career with 6 return touchdowns in a three year span.
Steve smith is a HOFer in most media markets. He is borderline playing his career in Charlotte.
Steve smith put up the same or better receiving numbers than Reggie Wayne or Holt while playing with Jake delhomme instead of hall of fame QBs putting up absurd passing numbers.
And Steve smith was just a more dynamic player over all. He was arguably the best return man early in his career with 6 return touchdowns in a three year span.
Steve smith is a HOFer in most media markets. He is borderline playing his career in Charlotte.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 9:47 pm to saintsfan22
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I'd say Eli but he's more Hall of sometimes Very Good
Eli is the Hall of won a SB. If he’s in Jm Plunkett should be in. He has no business being in period let alone first ballot. His overall record is .500, in 16 years he only made the playoffs 6 times and went 0-1 in the other 4. He never lead the league in yards, TDs or completion %. But did lead the league in interceptions 3 times. A hard no.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:18 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:
I don't watch the Manningcasts very often
Watching it once is too much.
Eli Manning has no business being in the HOF.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:20 pm to 308
I'm disappointed that L.C. Greenwood was not nominated by the Veteran's Committee.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 10:35 pm to SPEEDY
The only slam dunk 1st ballot is Luke Kuechly.
Defensive Rookie of the Year -2012
Defensive Player of the Year - 13
All Decade team 2010s
1st team All Pro - 5 times
2nd team All Pro - 2 times
Pro Bowl - 7 times
I do not think Eli gets in first ballot. He shouldn't.
I think Gates gets in.
Defensive Rookie of the Year -2012
Defensive Player of the Year - 13
All Decade team 2010s
1st team All Pro - 5 times
2nd team All Pro - 2 times
Pro Bowl - 7 times
I do not think Eli gets in first ballot. He shouldn't.
I think Gates gets in.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:32 am to S
quote:
Eta- ladies, im not saying Eli should be in, i just assume he’ll get in.
Agreed, I don't think he deserves to be in but because he played in NY and is a Manning and played on two teams with outstanding defenses that won Super Bowls over Brady - he'll get in.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:26 am to ATCTx
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The only slam dunk 1st ballot is Luke Kuechly.
Kuechly’s longevity and the fact that he’s not a glamour position may hurt him. Patrick Willis had basically the identical resume of individual honors and wasn’t a first ballot (third ballot I believe). Good shot that Kuechly will be a second or third ballot.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:36 am to SPEEDY
Does someone have to be inducted every year? I mean it's the same as baseball. Don't put people in just to be putting someone in every year. Being in the HOF should be for those exclusively who were the best of the best for almost a decade or more, not some guy who made a Pro Bowl/All Star Game or three and was elite for a few years or so, and above average the rest of their career. I think both the football and baseball HOF's have waaaaay too many members, and they just keep putting very good not great players in to have an induction class every year.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:37 am to ATCTx
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I do not think Eli gets in first ballot. He shouldn't.
I don't get first ballot vs any other ballot. Either you're a Hall of Famer or you're not. It's an "exclusive club" only in the fact that some guys that are eligible never get in...most just have to wait longer. It's like being at a club that has a VIP line and a non-VIP line, except once you get in, the club experience isn't any different.
The gold jackets of the guys that got in the first time eligible are no different than the rest, are they?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 9:44 am to SPEEDY
Eli will go in first ballot.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:43 am to StansberryRules
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but nothing hall of fame worthy.
Did you watch Gates play? He’s easily a HOFer. One of the best TEs ever.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:07 pm to JJ27
And a lot of people forget Gates didn't even play football in college at Kent State.
He only played basketball.
He only played basketball.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:14 pm to RemouladeSawce
He'll get in because New York.
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