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re: Durant: Kobe and MJ are the two greatest players of all-time

Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Even if this is true, what does a player in his prime beating a player yet to reach his prime in a meaningless one in one game have to do with their historical rankings 5 on 5 team sport with thousands of meaningful games?

Either you're just terrible at supporting an argument or you no longer have the relevant evidence to support your argument so you have to resort to desperation.


There have been times when Michael Jordan was lit up offensively by a player he was guarding in game situations, all of a sudden that makes that player superior to Jordan from an all-time context? LOL a one on one game witness account isn't enough in any debate to mean anything
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94907 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Therefore, just looking at stats alone and not actually watching the game and making a decision on your own, saying, "Okay, player x is better than player y, even though player y has better stats..."

RW > The Field
Yeh you are just wrong

Westbrook didn’t have the best stats the last two years even

Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:10 pm to
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The dude averages a triple-double two years in a row. Statistically, that's never been done before.

Therefore, just looking at stats alone and not actually watching the game and making a decision on your own, saying, "Okay, player x is better than player y, even though player y has better stats..."

RW > The Field



You know shooting percentages are a stat too, right?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Therefore, just looking at stats alone and not actually watching the game and making a decision on your own, saying, "Okay, player x is better than player y, even though player y has better stats..."

Over the last 2 years, Westbrook's average of BPM and RPM is 8.75. When Curry won back to back MVP's his average was 10.06. Lebron's average over THREE years starting with the year after his last MVP (when RPM was introduced) was 9.19.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:13 pm to
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“It’s a tie between MJ and Kob,” Durant said. “


leFanbois be like...

This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:31 pm to
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i'll never get this fascination with Kobe as a GOAT-level player. he simply was not


Some analysis that supports your point:
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Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30166 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:36 pm to
I love Kobe Bryant, but he is not a better basketball player than LeBron James.

Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 3:35 pm to
It is sad that you spend this much time inserting LeBron into threads that have nothing to do with him. He is living rent free in your head.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34609 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:17 pm to
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AI would have been the goat if he was 6’6.


Maybe, but he wouldn't have been shooting 41%.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:37 pm to
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Westbrook's average of BPM and RPM is 8.75


Beats per minute?

Revolutions per minute?
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:39 pm to
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You know shooting percentages are a stat too, right?


Then DeAndre Jordan is the best player in the NBA right now.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94907 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:43 pm to
Have you ever heard of looking at all stats and not just picking a few?
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Have you ever heard of looking at all stats


I'm not a stat dork.

At some point, you have to put the statsheet down and just watch the game.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94907 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:48 pm to
But we have seen how poor people are at watching and coming up with a rational true narrative
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:50 pm to
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I'm not a stat dork.

At some point, you have to put the statsheet down and just watch the game.



So you watch two players play and you come to the conclusion that the guy you watched score less while shooting more, while getting less rebounds and assists... Was the better player. Sounds like you don't know what you're actually watching.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:53 pm to
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lsupride87


Dup you know more about basketball than Durant?
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:54 pm to
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But we have seen how poor people are at watching and coming up with a rational true narrative


Lebron is a better facilitator, that's about it.

I have no allegiance to any particular player. I do have allegiance to a particular team, the Lakers. If I had the power to go back in time and replace Lebron with Kobe, I wouldn't.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:03 pm to
Mamba no joke.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57257 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:04 pm to
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Even if this is true, what does a player in his prime beating a player yet to reach his prime in a meaningless one in one game have to do with their historical rankings 5 on 5 team sport with thousands of meaningful games?


Kobe was in his 14th season. Lebron was in his 6th having the best stats of his career. Define prime again?
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:04 pm to
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Mamba no joke.



He's not. But you are.
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