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re: Durant: Kobe and MJ are the two greatest players of all-time

Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:33 pm to
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I don't view Wilt Chamberlain as a skillful player.


Where did this skillful qualifier come from? If Wilt was better, he was better. It doesn’t matter how skillful or not.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:51 pm to
They like Kobe because he was flashy and got buckets. Same way players like Westbrook or Iverson.


Kobe is a basketball savant, but was selfish and often inefficient. Top 10 all time, but nowhere close to as good as Lebron has been.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:58 pm to
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Top 10 all time


This might be a stretch
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 7:59 pm to
Kobe was a scoring machine and proved he didn’t need Shaq. He has to be in the conversation.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:06 pm to
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Kobe was a scoring machine and proved he didn’t need Shaq.


Yeah, those Lakers squads between Shaq and Bynum/Gasol were real juggernauts.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:13 pm to
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You know kor about basketball than Durant to
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tigercross

Yes


You people are mentally unstable
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:19 pm to
And Kobe won a title in there.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:20 pm to
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You know kor about basketball than Durant too
You mean the player who is so irrationally insecure he has to create a burner twitter account? I mean obviously I can see why your irrational self would like that, and he’s more reliable then most of the crap you cite. But I don’t expect to get rational opinions from irrational people.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:22 pm to
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And Kobe won a title in there.
He still is one is the greatest players of all time so that’s not surprising. People are just saying he isn’t anywhere near Lebron, Jordan, Kareem, etc., not that he was some bum or anything.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:24 pm to
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And Kobe won a title in there


This just isn’t true. Kobe never won without Shaq or Bynum/Gasol.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:25 pm to
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You people are mentally unstable
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CptBengal
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:27 pm to
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I can point you to plenty of players that won’t have Kobe top 2. Does Durant know more than they do?




Are they higher than him on your list of best ever?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:27 pm to
I'm cast iron weakling
3ta: still 1/8 carbon
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:28 pm to
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Are they higher than him on your list of best ever?
Jordan is obviously. But I think Durant, who still has some time left, will ultimately end up higher than Kobe.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:30 pm to
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You people are mentally unstable


Because we want objective evidence that Kobe is at top 2 player all-time? Please, 1) explain why wanting facts to support an argument is odd 2) give some facts that support the idea that Kobe is better than every basketball player ever besides MJ. If you don’t directly address both of these questions, any rational reader will interpret your obfuscation as surrender.

Third, and I truly don’t expect an answer—what if tomorrow Steph said that he thinks AI is an all-time top 2 player? Steph has more MVPs and more titles than KD, so surely he is more knowledgeable...
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:30 pm to
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You mean the player who is so irrationally insecure he has to create a burner twitter account? I


Your gay hero did the same. It's ok. You think you know more ty hsn NBA championship winner..let alone a basic NBA player.

Millennial delusion confirmed
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Because we want objective evidence


You're more objective on basketball than an NBA allstar?

Lol
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:32 pm to
This is good. Finish the sweep so they don’t have to delay the bachelorette a week
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 8:33 pm
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:33 pm to
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You're more objective on basketball than an NBA allstar? Lol


I didn’t ask him, I asked you. But by all means keep obfuscating and digging a deeper hole.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:39 pm to
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Millennial delusion confirmed



KD is probably the most millennial player in the NBA not draft in last 3 or so years, yet here you are defending him solely to make a point about LeBron.

FWIW if you want a better player than KD saying Kobe is not top 2, here is Magic naming Jordan, Himself, and Bird top 3.

It's an old article, and before Kobe retired. I guess it's possible Kobe could have moved up after this... then again the end of Kobe's career was not great.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 8:41 pm
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