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re: Drew Brees is the unluckiest QB of all time. Stats to prove it
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:39 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:39 pm to shel311
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Brady's played like 43 playoff games or something like that, and his D has given up 30 or more 5 times total, while these dudes average that much with their defenses.
Yup...I was curious so I looked into those numbers. So for all 3 we've got:
Brees playoff losses (8)
Offense scored: 23 pts
Defense gave up: 31 pts
Rodgers playoff losses (8)
Offense scored: 25 pts
Defense gave up: 36
Brady playoff losses (11)
Offense scored: 19 pts
Defense gave up: 27 pts
So in those losses, Brady's offense performed the worst, despite having a defense that performed the best of the 3.
Also worth noting is that Brady won rings in years where his offense averaged 24 pts per game and 20 pts per game in the playoffs. I mean, come the frick on. Rodgers out here averaging 25 pts IN LOSSES, but Brady winning rings with worse performances because his D picked him up
ETA: Proving yet again that wins, and most definitely Super Bowls, are not QB stats.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 4:42 pm
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:40 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Brees is so unlucky to turn the ball over at opportune times. Over and over again.
Earlier in his career, not so much. But the last few years, yeah definitely.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:45 pm to lsupride87
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Brees has retaken the lead 21 times in his Saints career, or 7.3% of his games on a go-ahead scoring drive, only to watch helplessly from the sidelines as his defenses cave under pressure and allow their opponents to surge back with their own salvo. That number includes the playoffs, and ties the total set by Brady, Manning, and Rodgers combined
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New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has had to put up with this unique incompetence only four times in the 322 games he’s played in the NFL.(1.2%)
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Retired great Peyton Manning dealt with just six such answering-score comebacks from teams he put on the ropes throughout his 266-game career.(2.2%)
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Green Bay Packers signal-caller Aaron Rodgers has had it the worst of the non-Brees bunch, watching his defense fold against 11 last-second efforts (out of 195 career games)(5.6%).
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Let’s reiterate that, to really drive the point home: Brady, Manning, and Rodgers have put their team ahead with a would-be game-winning drive only to lose anyway a combined 21 times in the 783 games they’ve played in the NFL, while Brees has found himself in the same situation 21 times in just 287 games.
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In other words, the combined defenses Brady, Manning, and Rodgers played with let them down in 2.7% of the games they’ve each played, while Brees has had to face his defense with a thousand-yard stare in 7.3% of their games together.
Thats remarkable
LSU and Orgeron stole their future OC/HC from New Orleans! That is one reason New Orleans are trying to stop the bleeding from LSU and Orgeron from taking away any more New Orleans coaches.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:48 pm to shel311
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No one asked you to feel bad, weird question.
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Or maybe his franchise could have done a better job putting a good defense around him his 1st decade with the team.
Youre basically feeling bad for him by making an excuse for not leaving for an entire decade. Contradicting yourself in your own post is weird
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:52 pm to Skyler97
I also was curious what the lowest total points scored in a playoff win was for each QB. You'll all be shocked to know that yet again Brady benefited the most from his defense.
Fewest points scored in a playoff win:
Brees: 20, 21
Rodgers: 21, 24
Brady: 13, 17
Fewest points scored in a playoff win:
Brees: 20, 21
Rodgers: 21, 24
Brady: 13, 17
Posted on 1/21/21 at 4:54 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So in those losses, Brady's offense performed the worst, despite having a defense that performed the best of the 3.
Also worth noting is that Brady won rings in years where his offense averaged 24 pts per game and 20 pts per game in the playoffs. I mean, come the frick on. Rodgers out here averaging 25 pts IN LOSSES, but Brady winning rings with worse performances because his D picked him up
ETA: Proving yet again that wins, and most definitely Super Bowls, are not QB stats.
I've been saying this for awhile. For anyone to call Brady the GOAT is a joke. He's been lucky his whole career and had a defense to carry him.
How the frick can someone be the greatest of all time, when his team scores 41 points in the playoffs, and not a single score comes from him? His whole career is based on being lucky.
Last weekend proved it again. If luck is all it takes to be the GOAT then yes he is it. He isn't even in my top 5 QBs of all time because of this shite. People are blind.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:01 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Brady won rings in years where his offense averaged 24 pts per game and 20 pts per game in the playoffs. I mean, come the frick on. Rodgers out here averaging 25 pts IN LOSSES, but Brady winning rings with worse performances because his D picked him up
You cant compare 2001 and 2003 to current Rodgers. 20 PPG in 2001 wasn't that bad and 24 PPG in 2004 was actually pretty good.
Btw I counted and Aaron Rodgers has lost 2 playoff games while scoring 25+. Tom Brady also has 2. Drew Brees also has 2 lol
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:02 pm to saintsfan1977
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Last weekend proved it again. If luck is all it takes to be the GOAT then yes he is it. He isn't even in my top 5 QBs of all time because of this shite. People are blind.
Bradys stats are enough for top 5 all time even without any Superbowls. He's gonna own every single passing record
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:05 pm to saintsfan1977
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I've been saying this for awhile. For anyone to call Brady the GOAT is a joke. He's been lucky his whole career and had a defense to carry him.
Brady Playoff TOTALS
2001 - Won SB
1 Passing TD
1 INT
2018 - Won SB
2 Passing TDs
3 INTs
Keep in mind, those numbers are not for the super bowl, it's for the entire playoffs that season.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:06 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Peyton Manning > Tom Brady > Aaron Rodgers > Cuck Brees
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:07 pm to Skyler97
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Btw I counted and Aaron Rodgers has lost 2 playoff games while scoring 25+. Tom Brady also has 2. Drew Brees also has 2 lol
I took the averages of points for/against to prevent cherry picking. But if we're going to do that, Rodgers put up 45 in a playoff game and lost
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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But if we're going to do that, Rodgers put up 45 in a playoff game and lost
What that the year that the Packer's entire secondary was giving up something like a 110+ passer rating?
ETA: NM I'm way off, that was 2017 where they gave up a 106.2 passer rating
ETA2: That was the 2011 Packers who set the record for most passing yards given up.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:10 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I also was curious what the lowest total points scored in a playoff win was for each QB. You'll all be shocked to know that yet again Brady benefited the most from his defense.
Fewest points scored in a playoff win:
Brees: 20, 21
Rodgers: 21, 24
Brady: 13, 17
If I calculated it correct, I believe this is the % of playoff games where each QB scored 25 or more.
Brees = 9/18 = 50%
Rodgers = 9/20 = 45%
Brady = 22/43 = 51%
So Brady scores 25 + more consistantly than those two despite playing before high scoring offenses became the standard. GOAT shite
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:11 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I took the averages of points for/against to prevent cherry picking. But if we're going to do that, Rodgers put up 45 in a playoff game and lost
I will give you that is probably the single worst game of anyone on the list
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:25 pm to Packer
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ETA: NM I'm way off, that was 2017 where they gave up a 106.2 passer rating
Posted on 1/21/21 at 5:41 pm to Skyler97
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Brees = 9/18 = 50%
Rodgers = 9/20 = 45%
Brady = 22/43 = 51%
So Brady scores 25 + more consistantly than those two despite playing before high scoring offenses became the standard. GOAT shite
I'm only counting 22/43 for Brady, 10/20 for Rodgers, and 9/17 for Brees. Though I admit I could be wrong as well.
So that would be
Brees = 9/17 = 53%
Brady = 22/43 = 51%
Rodgers = 10/20 = 50%
Regardless, pretty much a wash. What I was looking to illustrate is which quarterback lost the most games despite solid offensive performances, and which quarterback won the most games despite a shitty offensive performance. The numbers point very much to Brees/Rodgers losing despite playing well, and Brady winning the most despite playing worse than Brees/Rodgers.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 6:07 pm to lsupride87
I've been screaming this stat for the past year or so. People really don't understand how bad those Saints defenses were
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:26 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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2001 - Won SB
1 Passing TD
1 INT
C'mon now. That was like the 15th NFL game Brady ever started and the Rams had a great defense to go along with one of the best offenses the NFL has ever seen. The Patriots were +14.5 underdogs in that game. Nobody expected Brady to have a chance in that game, much less lead the game winning drive with under 2:00 min left.
This board has got to be the ONLY place in sports fandom where retards are still knocking Brady. Most haters threw the towel in on that a decade ago.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:57 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:59 pm to lsupride87
Or the others have put their teams in position to not be behind in those situations to begin with.
That’s like saying the kid that makes up the biggest improvement from exam 1 to 2 is better because his improvement was 30 points (50 to 80) compared to the guy that got a 90 and moved to a 95.
You can cherry pick stats to make any argument look legitimate.
That’s like saying the kid that makes up the biggest improvement from exam 1 to 2 is better because his improvement was 30 points (50 to 80) compared to the guy that got a 90 and moved to a 95.
You can cherry pick stats to make any argument look legitimate.
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