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re: Drew Brees is the unluckiest QB of all time. Stats to prove it

Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:06 pm to
That’s why I asked for plays run split

But to say they have not lost games due to this is incorrect until we’ve seen all data
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:07 pm to
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You may want to read posts in entirety or know who you’re posting to before making stupid assumptions like you have.

"knows who you're posting to" has to be one of the most insecure lines I've read on TD in quite a while


You also accused him of making assumptions in a discussion that started with you making assumptions.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:09 pm to
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And who gave the opposing offense time to score said points? Again you are out of your league
Are you planning to prove these assumption you're making or just going to tell people they're not in your league because they don't make unsupported assumptions as good as you do?
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:10 pm to
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before making stupid assumptions like you have

This you?
quote:

So you are up 10 you run 3 plays and out twice and give up 14 because you as an OC play caller didn’t read situation correct and just gave them more chances with more options.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:11 pm to
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That’s why I asked for plays run split
But you've mad your assumptions without any supporting data while calling out others for making assumptions and being our of their league.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Again you are out of your league


Do you think what you're saying is that complicated?

You're just not offering any data or examples to the contrary of the thread's point, nor are you acknowledging the fact that this happened FAR LESS to other QBs

Off the top of my head I can think of numerous Saints games where the offense gained the lead with less than 2 minutes left and lost

That ain't the offense's fault, pal.

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So you are up 10 you run 3 plays and out twice and give up 14 because you as an OC play caller didn’t read situation correct and just gave them more chances with more options.



Cool, what game did this happen to Drew and Sean?
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:14 pm to
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didn’t Jim Kelly take the Bills to 4 consecutive Super Bowls and lose them all? That’s as unlucky as it gets for a QB.


To me, that seems about as unlucky as a QB can get! End of discussion !!

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:18 pm to
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To me, that seems about as unlucky as a QB can get! End of discussion
a quick look, his offense averaged 18ppg, and he had 2 TDs and 7 INTs in those 4 games with passer ratings of 81/45/59/67.

Not unlucky, just really, really bad in those 4 games.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:18 pm to
Off top of my head Raiders game I think Carr was the QB and a Cardinals game in Phoenix 08/09? I don’t watch every Saints game, so could be more.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:20 pm to
Was the fumble in end zone considered an int for Kelly vs Cowboys? It was the play he hurt his knee and was out rest of game.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:21 pm to
Saints have been near the top of the league in 4th quarter time of possession every year since 2006, even got first in the league a couple times, except for one season

2012, when Payton wasn't there

lowest we ranked with him on the sideline was 12th
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34901 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:37 pm to
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Off top of my head Raiders game I think Carr was the QB


Saints went up by a TD with 6ish minutes to play

defense allows a 5 minute TD-drive AND the go-ahead 2point conversion

didn't get the ball back until :40 seconds remaining, down a point

Lutz misses a 61-yarder at the horn

Defense gave up 35 points

Hard to put that one on the offense not running clock, eh?

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Cardinals game in Phoenix 08/09?


Saints have never blown a 4th quarter lead to the Cardinals, at least not since Drew/Sean got here
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:41 pm to
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Saints went up by a TD with 6ish minutes to play

defense allows a 5 minute TD-drive AND the go-ahead 2point conversion

didn't get the ball back until :40 seconds remaining, down a point


quote:

Saints have never blown a 4th quarter lead to the Cardinals, at least not since Drew/Sean got here



And they said you were out of your league!!!
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:52 pm to


I really like that guy, too! I don't understand why he was being so rude and arrogant with me
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:55 pm to
Rude maybe arrogant maybe

As I said you’re out of your league if you thought I was talking about always scoring and that only defense determines points scored etc.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
110870 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:02 pm to
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As I said you’re out of your league
Yea, you may want to stop saying this after he made you look a bit silly debunking your points above.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:57 am to
The Bucs beat the Saints

It made you mad when announcers would suggest a deep playoff run for the Bucs earlier in the season

Posted by bakersman
Grant parish
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:55 am to
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Brees would have at least 1 more ring if his defense wasn't so horrid for the majority of his career


2011, 2017, and 2018 for sure. 2019 is debatable.
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