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re: Does the Bills' DC survive that 13 second drive that sent the game to OT?

Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Comic_Tiger
Member since Jul 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:08 am to
Nobody should decide that kickoff into the end zone.

Special teams is only a few plays a game but so many times one of those few plays dooms the entire game.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50479 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:10 am to
it starts with squibbing the kick
that takes precious time off
then you have to know they are going to Kelce most likely, take him out of the play
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:14 am to
Everyone in the world knew they would go to Hill....or in desperation, Kelce.
How can you NOT guard Hill and let him get 20 yds untouched? With the time, they HAD to get it to the fastest, quickest player, period. Buffalo called a timeout before the okay and still fricked up

Fire him now
Posted by Eatem up
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2017
570 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:15 am to
I have seen so many coaches lose games like that because of playing to conservatively at the end. The coaches let the players down. First, NEVER NEVER NEVER leave Kelsey uncovered. Crazy! Play a safety on him similar to how Saints use Malcolm Jenkins. Put a safety on Kelsey and double team Hill. Make someone else beat you. Play the dime package. Also, why was a linebacker (#58) on Kelsey on the touchdown? Should have been a safety. Poor coaching in my humble opinion.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:16 am to
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They changed the rule after the Pats Giants second Super Bowl. Giants defense at the end started intentionally fouling to run the clock down. Now they will reset the clock in these scenarios.

What's the exact rule?

Any penalty(or just defensive holding) with under 2 minutes resets the clock?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:18 am to
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KC would have gotten the penalty yards and the time back on the clock, so that strategy would have been pointless.


No..defensive holding is 5 yds and a 1st down. Clock isn't reset to pre play time. Where have you ever seen that?

1st, hard squib kickoff...5 seconds gone
Rush 3, put 8 guys on pass D, including underneath routes.
Bump off line!!!
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:20 am to
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likely takes off 1 second and gives the chiefs 10-15 yards


You have to try a deep squib and any mishandled starts clock.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140503 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:26 am to
Rushing 4 made sense. If they rush 2 he gets more room and the throws are easier

Problem was they didn’t play man under
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62152 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:32 am to
Mahomes is capable of creating however much room he wants. He showed it all game
Posted by PhineasFreakaZoid
Member since Oct 2021
1105 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:32 am to
If you have multiple players mugging the opposition with the intent of running the clock, they get the yardage and the time back. Basically The Replacements. Ravens did this and the NFL boxes that.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:33 am to
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Rushing 4 made sense. If they rush 2 he gets more room and the throws are easier

Problem was they didn’t play man under
But you can play man under with 2 additional safeties deep, so should be no chance you get beat deep, unless a guy makes a catch in double coverage.

By rushing 4, even in Man under, someone could have a shot to hit a seam if timed correctly.

By rushing 2, you also run the risk that simply no one is open and Mahomes sits around in the pocket, or just throws it away quickly. But on the last play to Kelce both of those things would take the FG out of the question, and KC would only be able to attempt a hail mary.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:34 am to
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Mahomes is capable of creating however much room he wants. He showed it all game

With 7 seconds left in the game, you want Mahomes to run around and create as much room as he possibly can ,because that'll be the last play of the game.

you basically want anything but a quick hitter down field, which is exactly what Buffalo allowed.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:35 am to
If the Bills’ DC doesn’t survive, neither should Tampa’s.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104078 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:36 am to
Yep. Mahomes was going to throw it regardless right when he finished his drop back. Which is why they honestly should have rushed zero players really
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62152 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:36 am to
I’m talking about the first play with 13 seconds, they also brought 4. It makes more sense to me on the play to Kelce with less time left for sure
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:38 am to
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Which is why they honestly should have rushed zero players really


It's crazy but I completely agree as well.

After calling a timeout, there's many scenarios they could have played out, whether it's as wild as rushing 0 or rushing 2...but anything other than no one gets within 10 yards of Kelce running 25 yards downfield
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:39 am to
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I’m talking about the first play with 13 seconds, they also brought 4. It makes more sense to me on the play to Kelce with less time left for sure

Yea, i'm ok with sending 4 on the 1st play. It just seemed unnecessary on the 2nd play.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62152 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:42 am to
Don’t think it makes sense at all on the first play. If you chase Mahomes outside the pocket he’s fully capable of hitting an off script 40 yard or so throw into FG range on one play. He does it frequently. I’m not sure what pressure accomplishes there.

To be more clear I think sending 4 on both plays was dumb
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:45 am
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9608 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:44 am to
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then you have to know they are going to Kelce most likely, take him out of the play



Yeah, they should have literally tackled him and Hill at the LOS. Take the penalty, and waste the time.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19958 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:05 am to
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Yeah, they should have literally tackled him and Hill at the LOS. Take the penalty, and waste the time.


here is the rule on intentionally fouling. What I am not sure about it is if you could get away with it if you just do it to one player. It's pretty clear if you do multiple holds its going to be 15 yards and the time added bacl

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