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re: Does the Bills' DC survive that 13 second drive that sent the game to OT?
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:08 am to TigerProphet
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:08 am to TigerProphet
Nobody should decide that kickoff into the end zone.
Special teams is only a few plays a game but so many times one of those few plays dooms the entire game.
Special teams is only a few plays a game but so many times one of those few plays dooms the entire game.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:10 am to Damone
it starts with squibbing the kick
that takes precious time off
then you have to know they are going to Kelce most likely, take him out of the play
that takes precious time off
then you have to know they are going to Kelce most likely, take him out of the play
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:14 am to TigerProphet
Everyone in the world knew they would go to Hill....or in desperation, Kelce.
How can you NOT guard Hill and let him get 20 yds untouched? With the time, they HAD to get it to the fastest, quickest player, period. Buffalo called a timeout before the okay and still fricked up
Fire him now
How can you NOT guard Hill and let him get 20 yds untouched? With the time, they HAD to get it to the fastest, quickest player, period. Buffalo called a timeout before the okay and still fricked up
Fire him now
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:15 am to Glorious
I have seen so many coaches lose games like that because of playing to conservatively at the end. The coaches let the players down. First, NEVER NEVER NEVER leave Kelsey uncovered. Crazy! Play a safety on him similar to how Saints use Malcolm Jenkins. Put a safety on Kelsey and double team Hill. Make someone else beat you. Play the dime package. Also, why was a linebacker (#58) on Kelsey on the touchdown? Should have been a safety. Poor coaching in my humble opinion.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:16 am to wildtigercat93
quote:What's the exact rule?
They changed the rule after the Pats Giants second Super Bowl. Giants defense at the end started intentionally fouling to run the clock down. Now they will reset the clock in these scenarios.
Any penalty(or just defensive holding) with under 2 minutes resets the clock?
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:18 am to Damone
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KC would have gotten the penalty yards and the time back on the clock, so that strategy would have been pointless.
No..defensive holding is 5 yds and a 1st down. Clock isn't reset to pre play time. Where have you ever seen that?
1st, hard squib kickoff...5 seconds gone
Rush 3, put 8 guys on pass D, including underneath routes.
Bump off line!!!
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
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likely takes off 1 second and gives the chiefs 10-15 yards
You have to try a deep squib and any mishandled starts clock.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:26 am to lsupride87
Rushing 4 made sense. If they rush 2 he gets more room and the throws are easier
Problem was they didn’t play man under
Problem was they didn’t play man under
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:32 am to sms151t
Mahomes is capable of creating however much room he wants. He showed it all game
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:32 am to the LSUSaint
If you have multiple players mugging the opposition with the intent of running the clock, they get the yardage and the time back. Basically The Replacements. Ravens did this and the NFL boxes that.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:33 am to sms151t
quote:But you can play man under with 2 additional safeties deep, so should be no chance you get beat deep, unless a guy makes a catch in double coverage.
Rushing 4 made sense. If they rush 2 he gets more room and the throws are easier
Problem was they didn’t play man under
By rushing 4, even in Man under, someone could have a shot to hit a seam if timed correctly.
By rushing 2, you also run the risk that simply no one is open and Mahomes sits around in the pocket, or just throws it away quickly. But on the last play to Kelce both of those things would take the FG out of the question, and KC would only be able to attempt a hail mary.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:With 7 seconds left in the game, you want Mahomes to run around and create as much room as he possibly can ,because that'll be the last play of the game.
Mahomes is capable of creating however much room he wants. He showed it all game
you basically want anything but a quick hitter down field, which is exactly what Buffalo allowed.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:35 am to TigerProphet
If the Bills’ DC doesn’t survive, neither should Tampa’s.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:36 am to shel311
Yep. Mahomes was going to throw it regardless right when he finished his drop back. Which is why they honestly should have rushed zero players really
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:36 am to shel311
I’m talking about the first play with 13 seconds, they also brought 4. It makes more sense to me on the play to Kelce with less time left for sure
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:38 am to lsupride87
quote:It's crazy but I completely agree as well.
Which is why they honestly should have rushed zero players really
After calling a timeout, there's many scenarios they could have played out, whether it's as wild as rushing 0 or rushing 2...but anything other than no one gets within 10 yards of Kelce running 25 yards downfield

Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:39 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:Yea, i'm ok with sending 4 on the 1st play. It just seemed unnecessary on the 2nd play.
I’m talking about the first play with 13 seconds, they also brought 4. It makes more sense to me on the play to Kelce with less time left for sure
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:42 am to shel311
Don’t think it makes sense at all on the first play. If you chase Mahomes outside the pocket he’s fully capable of hitting an off script 40 yard or so throw into FG range on one play. He does it frequently. I’m not sure what pressure accomplishes there.
To be more clear I think sending 4 on both plays was dumb
To be more clear I think sending 4 on both plays was dumb
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:44 am to nicholastiger
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then you have to know they are going to Kelce most likely, take him out of the play
Yeah, they should have literally tackled him and Hill at the LOS. Take the penalty, and waste the time.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:05 am to Ostrich
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Yeah, they should have literally tackled him and Hill at the LOS. Take the penalty, and waste the time.
here is the rule on intentionally fouling. What I am not sure about it is if you could get away with it if you just do it to one player. It's pretty clear if you do multiple holds its going to be 15 yards and the time added bacl
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