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re: Does anyone think Jokic is still the mvp?

Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28465 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:18 pm to
You should probably stop posting in this thread.

You keep making your original point look worse the more you post.

Food for thought bro

This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 5:19 pm
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8735 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:28 pm to
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Because he didnt have to play at all the fourth quarter most games. His +/- per minute beat anything kobe ever did

Kobe Bryant is the most overrated player of all time who played on loaded teams the majority of his career.

What does that have to do with Shai's fake +/- stat you're trying to push?
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
8735 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Jokic is the best overall player but SGA had a better season
Jokic is the better player and he had a better season.

The only thing SGA did better than Jokic this year was shoot free throws.

Don't give me that "he didn't play in the 4th quarter" nonsense either. SGA played 2 minutes less per game than Jokic. Jokic not only had better counting stats, he also had better analytical numbers, all on a much worse team, while playing center, and while having a lower usage rate.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
16830 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Jokic is the best overall player but SGA had a better season.
*SGA’s team had a better season

Meanwhile Joker doesn’t have a team

You’re overthinking this bigly
Posted by GalacticaCannon
Member since Aug 2022
4659 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 5:53 pm to
Gordon was injured and MPjr had one arm to use effectively.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:01 pm to
Well to be fair the MVP is a regular season award. But SGA deserves it this year even if OKC would have lost today.
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
7373 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:12 pm to
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And if he played for OKC they probably sweep the playoffs
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8583 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:15 pm to
He's more of the MVP than ever.

Swap him with SGA and OKC wins by a lot more.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107909 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:24 pm to
Jokic is the best player in the nba, by far

Wild to see this board all of a sudden on a dime understand winning and losing is a team stat now.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7147 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:34 pm to
Dude got double/triple teamed and harassed all game while two of his starting teammates decided to play in favor of OKC. OKC did have a strong game plan and followed it to a strong finish.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36176 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:36 pm to
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But SGA deserves it this year


Walk us through it peej
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33112 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:40 pm to
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Pretty sad that you spend this much time trolling multiple boards.
I think he's a bot. I don't think a real human being could live with the hate he gets in every thread I read him posting in. If he is a bot, I wish Chicken would change his name. Any real human being that is as much of a contrarian as Corinthians420 shouldn't be allowed to use a Biblical name. Doesn't feel like very Christian behavior.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23882 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:06 pm to
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He's more of the MVP than ever.

Swap him with SGA and OKC wins by a lot more.


This is not true. They are completely different players. Jokic needs the ball a higher percentage of the time. It could be said him having it so much hurts his teammates. Shooting is a flow type thing and players get in rhythms. With Jokic his teammates never do because everything flows thru him.

I can tell you never watched Thunder games in reg season. SGA is a great facilitator and could have scored 40+ every night. But he makes an extra effort to get his teammates involved giving up even good looks to involve them. He is very tactical in choosing when to get his while feeding other players.

They are not interchangeable and each offers something different to their team.

You can all keep discussing who is better but SGA will win it and rightfully so for what he did this year. This is the youngest ever team to get this far and SGA lead this team and kept everyone happy with his distribution and not hogging the ball. He walked a delicate balance all year long, guiding them to 5th best reg season record in history. Think about that knowing how many great teams there were.

I’m just glad Denver series is over, I’ve never seen so many fan ref whiners ever. Every game thread was either deflected to pimp Jokic MVP or complaining about refs. It was flat out disgusting. I’ve been watching since before Jordon era and Denver (Joker) fans are the worst complainers I’ve ever witnessed.

And for the record, old school BB was awesome. I love when teams play defense but in todays sports world everyone wants no defense and video game scores. When a team focuses and plays defense its like end of days with the new era fans. Detroit set the defensive benchmark for the record.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36176 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:07 pm to
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This is not true. They are completely different players. Jokic needs the ball a higher percentage of the time.


SGA was second this season in usage
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23882 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:12 pm to
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SGA was second this season in usage


Throw that crap stat out the window. SGA did not get credit for many things like passing to a player who passes to a 3rd who scores. Won’t show in stats. He keeps his team balanced moreso than Joker. They are 2 different type players. Doesn’t make Joker bad either but most things run thru him.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65954 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:12 pm to
Joker was 19th so it isn’t even close.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36176 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:13 pm to
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He keeps his team balanced moreso than Joker.


Because his team doesn’t suck arse outside of him

SGA is awesome, no need to make shite up
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4932 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:14 pm to
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OU Guy


I would really love to know your story IRL. Weird, lonely fifteen year old? 50 year old autistic guy? The Kige of Oklahoma?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23882 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:15 pm to
Here’s SGA cooking up some Nuggets. Good riddance to the Jokic fanbois lol.



And here is the next destination for Joker



Denver fans

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65954 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:16 pm to
Nah, the Nuggets problems with offensive flow are due to Murray’s poor timing on pick and rolls and getting into the offense.
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