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Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:03 am to ClemsonRules
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Meh ...40yd times Are meaningless in a 100yd race.
DK clearly has better track speed over the longer distance.
ETA: Tony Dorsett Dan a 4.33 40 and got “walked down” From way behind by Darrell Green back in the day...still more impressive feat of speed IMHO.
Also Green ran a 4.43 40 on his 50th birthday. True freak.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:06 am to lsupride87
I can't believe Ole Miss had him and AJ Brown and did jack shite.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:15 am to ClemsonRules
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ETA: Tony Dorsett Dan a 4.33 40 and got “walked down” From way behind by Darrell Green back in the day...still more impressive feat of speed IMHO.
Also Green ran a 4.43 40 on his 50th birthday. True frea
Was it a guy sitting on a chair with a stopwatch? I don’t put much stock into 40 times from way back in the day.
Darrell Green was considered one of the fastest guys to ever play in the nfl so that’s not some shocker.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:19 am to ClemsonRules
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Meh ...40yd times Are meaningless in a 100yd race.
DK clearly has better track speed over the longer distance.
Not really. The initial 40 yards is crucial to the developed speed at terminal velocity. DK is a 4.33 40 runner and just for comparison Bolt ran a 4.22 in an exhibition at the Super Bowl and likely could run low 4.1s in a better situation (he had to pull up at the end due to a short run off).
If he did reach 23.2 mph it really is extraordinary. Especially when you consider the added weight/restriction/air resistance of the pads/uniform/helmet along with the low energy return of the grass, weight/traction of the cleats vs track spikes and the fact he is carrying 25-30 pounds of extra weight compared to a modern sprinter of his height and much of that in comparatively useless upper body mass.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:33 am to lsupride87
That was an awesome effort..... that’s how you play football.... play of the year IMO...... reminds me of Jacob Hester running down the Bama guy who intercepted the ball in the 2007 LSU/ Bama game.....
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:43 am to TeddyPadillac
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Was it a guy sitting on a chair with a stopwatch? I don’t put much stock into 40 times from way back in the day.
Hand time numbers can be off as much as .5 seconds. The direct comparison era started in 98 or 99 when they started using laser timing at the combine. It is important to note combine numbers do not include reaction time so combine numbers are .25 to .4 seconds faster than a track sprint started with a gun but the track sprinters also are coming out of blocks so it tempers that difference.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:too bad I don't get fantasy pts for that
DK Metcalf tops out at 23.2 MPH on Sunday Night run
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:34 pm to Obtuse1
They said it was the second fastest recorded speed by a wr..I'd love to know if that's true ,I just dont see that not being the fastest
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:42 pm to lsupride87
As a reward, they decided to give him 3 more targets the whole game...
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:08 pm to Obtuse1
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Not really. The initial 40 yards is crucial to the developed speed at terminal velocity.
If you ever watched bolt run a 100 meter race he was rarely in the lead at 40 yds...his acceleration occurs between 60-65 meters and he pulls away in the last 20 meters. So...you’re wrong.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:29 pm to ClemsonRules
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If you ever watched bolt run a 100 meter race he was rarely in the lead at 40 yds...his acceleration occurs between 60-65 meters and he pulls away in the last 20 meters.
This can not be disbuted.........
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:12 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:15 pm to Goldrush25
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I can't believe Ole Miss had him and AJ Brown and did jack shite.
Football is won on the lines of scrimmage.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 6:41 pm to castorinho
That's not even one of his good ones, but still funny.
He's always on point.
He's always on point.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 11:40 pm to ClemsonRules
Compare DK's arms pumping to Bolt's. Think about it.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 12:17 am to Bill Parker?
Does this remind anyone of Ben Watson? Bailey pulled up but that was an incredible effort
Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:31 am to ClemsonRules
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If you ever watched bolt run a 100 meter race he was rarely in the lead at 40 yds...his acceleration occurs between 60-65 meters and he pulls away in the last 20 meters. So...you’re wrong.
Same with Carl Lewis. He had long legs and a long stride.
40 benefits people who are sort of squatty and thick.
DK is 6'4" and you could tell he didn't really hit top speed until pass the 50 yard line and that's where he made up all his ground.
Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:52 am to ClemsonRules
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So...you’re wrong.
Science says I am not.
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his acceleration occurs between 60-65 meters
Nope. Bolt reaches Vmax in the 100 by the 50-53m mark. What you are mistakenly equating to acceleration is the fact he is remarkably efficient at maintaining his speed in the 50-90m portion of the race where almost all other elite sprinters are losing speed, Montgomery and Powell are two that lost less than most. Bolt loses essentially no speed from 50-95m which is unheard of and what made him great.
Science shows that the first 20 meters is by far the most important in 100m final times.* It has the largest negative correlation of any split to the times. Bolt is unusual in that he actually has relatively slow 10 and 20m splits first because in the realm of elite sprinters he has a slow reaction time and coupled with his long levers he is relatively slow to come up to Vmax. He continues to accelerate for about 10 meters longer than the average elite sprinter and again he holds Vmax from 50m to 90+m better than any sprinter ever. If he had 20m splits like Maurice Green he would have run significantly quicker times.
The 10m split is by far the most important in the 100 and by the end of the 40m split almost all the acceleration phase of the race is done. Because Bolt normally has a slow 10m split he is still accelerating through 50m which is not ideal but a product of his lanky body. He absolutely is not accelerating at 60-65m as you suggest he reaches Vmax just after 50m. So... you're wrong.
* Journal of Sport and Health Science
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