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re: Did Michael Jordan insult Cowherd's momma?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
18 year old lebron isn't a fair comparison to a 21 year old jordan
Its more fairer than a 21 year old 3rd year in the NBA comparing to a 21 year old rookie in the NBA. Lebron chose to go straight to NBA so frick it, that's how its going down.
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:03 pm to Chad504boy
Thank you.
I really think the numbers are about equal considering Jordan played for the best coach in NBA history and Jordan had a superior team to work with.
I really think the numbers are about equal considering Jordan played for the best coach in NBA history and Jordan had a superior team to work with.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You should probably look at both. There are advantages and disadvantages that go with entering the league early. As such, it seems fair to look at both.
you shouldn't compare by years you should compared by age, fwiw
18 year old lebron isn't a fair comparison to a 21 year old jordan
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:04 pm to WDE24
quote:
didn't assign any ratings, I said they were evidence. You want a one to one correlation so you can argue Tony Parker and Rasheed Wallace. Sports, movies, music and life don't work that way. Only dungeons and dragons and fantasy sports.
It is interesting that you rag on "fantasy" sports, then talk about your ability to observe will and determination.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:05 pm to SabiDojo
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I really think the numbers are about equal considering Jordan played for the best coach in NBA history and Jordan had a superior team to work with.
Most of MJ's best statistical years were under doug collins. Same with Lebron with mike brown.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:06 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Or made him appear to be. A chicken and egg argument can be had.
Jordan played for the best coach in NBA history
quote:Not really. I mean, maybe a couple of the years.
Jordan had a superior team to work with.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:06 pm to WDE24
quote:
You should probably look at both. There are advantages and disadvantages that go with entering the league early. As such, it seems fair to look at both.
Someone can be my fricking guest recalculating lebron's numbers minus his first 3 years cause it ain't going to be me.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:07 pm to shel311
quote:First, I'm not ragging on fantasy sports, but the mindset it has created in some fans. Second, how is that interesting?
It is interesting that you rag on "fantasy" sports, then talk about your ability to observe will and determination.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:07 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Most of MJ's best statistical years were under doug collins. Same with Lebron with mike brown.
Ah. The ten-year constraint. Thank you for narrowing the focus.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:07 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Its more fairer than a 21 year old 3rd year in the NBA comparing to a 21 year old rookie in the NBA
not really
development is typically followed by age, not years in the league
you think kobe was kobe 18-21?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:07 pm to WDE24
quote:
Or made him appear to be. A chicken and egg argument can be had.
So, are we saying that Phil Jackson just has to be the luckiest son of a bitch in NBA history considering he has won 5 rings without Jordan?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:08 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Ah. The ten-year constraint. Thank you for narrowing the focus.
are you making points with these statements?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:09 pm to SabiDojo
quote:I don't think anyone can argue he isn't the most fortunate coach in NBA history. Doesn't mean he isn't the greatest (I think he probably is), but it gives room for the "Robert Horry" argument.
, are we saying that Phil Jackson just has to be the luckiest son of a bitch in NBA history
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:10 pm to WDE24
quote:I've never once played any fantasy sport, myself.
First, I'm not ragging on fantasy sports, but the mindset it has created in some fans. Second, how is that interesting?
And the second question, because i think it is a fantasy to think you have this ability to determine how much will and determination goes into each player while watching from your couch at home.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
not really
development is typically followed by age, not years in the league
lbj 1st 10 years average: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg
Lebron's year 2 averages: 47.2 FG%, 27.2 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 7.2 apg
See you might have a point only that Lebron's 2nd year, he was on par or better in all of his 10 year statistical averages. Seems, lebron got to be lebron pretty quickly. Granted, i'll give you a learning curve his 19 year old rookie season.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:12 pm to shel311
quote:It really isn't. People see that through effort and other things all the time. It isn't concrete, but it isn't nearly as abstract and un-observable as you want to make it.
, because i think it is a fantasy to think you have this ability to determine how much will and determination goes into each player while watching from your couch at home.
quote:There was only one question.
And the second question,
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:13 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Seems, lebron got to be lebron pretty quickly.
yeah, he's fricking awesome
but if you deny the age factor you're just trolling. and i mean even with superstars
go look at KG/Kobe and see how long it took them to become Kg/Kobe. it was typically when they were 22-23
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:13 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
are you making points with these statements?
What? I just forgot we were talking about the first ten years. I was looking at their entire careers. Put your sword away, sir.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:14 pm to WDE24
so statistically MJ has the edge
accomplishment wise MJ has the edge
mental toughness, clearly MJ with an edge
but from a raw size and athleticism view, LeBron has the edge
welp, clearly LeBron is better, he has more "tools"
accomplishment wise MJ has the edge
mental toughness, clearly MJ with an edge
but from a raw size and athleticism view, LeBron has the edge
welp, clearly LeBron is better, he has more "tools"
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:15 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
What? I just forgot we were talking about the first ten years. I was looking at their entire careers. Put your sword away, sir.
ok, it was a confusing post, i'm edgy and cut people when i'm edgy.
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