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re: Did Michael Jordan insult Cowherd's momma?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:46 am to SabiDojo
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:46 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Have you seen Lebron's career averages to date?
His numbers are unreal too.
I don't think LBJ has the upper hand in any first 10 year average other than rebounds and assists.
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
I think with regards to MJ's 6 NBA finals MVP awards, you are forgetting the fact that he was the best player on the court consistently in every opportunity he had on the game's biggest stage competing against the best team in the league
he NEVER was a disappointment in this stage
he NEVER was a disappointment in this stage
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:47 am to Chad504boy
quote:
I don't think LBJ has the upper hand in any first 10 year average other than rebounds and assists.
Why are you acting like these numbers are so trivial?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:47 am to WDE24
quote:
You and SFP don't believe that intangibles exist. I get it. I do. I think MJ had a will and drive that LBJ hasn't consistently displayed. If you think you win the debate because stats or some other direct objective data can't show it to you, then I respectfully disagree and think you are trying too hard. Sabermetrics and fantasy sports has altered the way people think about sports to a strange level.
I am saying that if Lebron wins 6 titles, that you personally while watching from your TV at home have absolutely no way to determine how much was related to drive and determination compared to MJ.
That's what I'm saying. Of course we disagree, but I certainly don't remotely see how you have this ability to assign an amount of drive and determination to go with 2 players that have the same amount of titles(again, playing the hypothetical)
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:47 am to shel311
didn't MJ have 10 triple doubles in an 11 game stretch?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:48 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Yes
didn't MJ have 10 triple doubles in an 11 game stretch?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:48 am to Ford Frenzy
eta: personal fail 
All the MJ vs Lebron comparisons should really stop. Let's just let the man finish his career, or at least come close to retirement 1st. He's got a lot left in the tank, but I understand that all of this is for the sake of convo/debate.
All the MJ vs Lebron comparisons should really stop. Let's just let the man finish his career, or at least come close to retirement 1st. He's got a lot left in the tank, but I understand that all of this is for the sake of convo/debate.
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 11:54 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:51 am to shel311
quote:Certainly if that happens I have a way to determine who I think had more drive and determination. The same way I have made that determination now. By watching them and making observations. Subjectivity when analyzing performances doesn't offend me. It is part of life, whether it be in work, sport, theater, etc.
I am saying that if Lebron wins 6 titles, that you personally while watching from your TV at home have absolutely no way to determine how much was related to drive and determination compared to MJ.
quote:Again, I think you do because it is a natural part of humanity and every day life. You just don't like the subjective nature of it.
but I certainly don't remotely see how you have this ability to assign an amount of drive and determination to go with 2 players that have the same amount of titles(again, playing the hypothetical)
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:52 am to Ford Frenzy
MJ 1st 10 years: 51.37 FG%, 32.16 ppg, 6.34 rpg, 5.88 apg
lbj 1st 10 years: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg
lbj 1st 10 years: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg
This post was edited on 2/18/13 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:55 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Why are you acting like these numbers are so trivial?
Cause they are and Lebron has less than a Rebound difference than MJ with his superior physical body. I think MJ would have averaged 14 rebounds per game with lebron's body.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:55 am to Chad504boy
quote:
MJ 1st 10 years: 51.37 FG%, 32.16 ppg
lbj 1st 10 years: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg
Stop looking at this in a vacuum. Throw ALL the numbers out there. Look at the teams. LOOK AT THE COACH. LOOK AT EVERYTHING. THEN, you can judge the players.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:55 am to yankeelover
Cowherd is doing this for ratings. Troll.
Now there is 10 pages of people feeding this troll
Now there is 10 pages of people feeding this troll
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:56 am to SabiDojo
quote:Except team accomplishments.
LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:56 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Stop looking at this in a vacuum.
Dude, give me a vacuum, a mop, a broom, whatever the hell you want and Michael is on top of that shite.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:57 am to WITNESS23
Cowherd really is a master troll.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:58 am to WDE24
quote:And if you do, make sure to assign random, arbitrary will and determination ratings to each title that in reality, are impossible to make with ANY certainty at all.
Except team accomplishments
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:58 am to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:
Cowherd really is a master troll.
sadly people share his trolling opinion, that's what makes this 10 pages.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:59 am to Chad504boy
MJ 1st 10 years: 51.37 FG%, 32.16 ppg, 6.34 rpg, 5.88 apg
lbj 1st 10 years: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg
Reposting with assists and boards.
lbj 1st 10 years: 48.8 FG%, 27.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg
Reposting with assists and boards.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:00 pm to Chad504boy
you shouldn't compare by years you should compared by age, fwiw
18 year old lebron isn't a fair comparison to a 21 year old jordan
18 year old lebron isn't a fair comparison to a 21 year old jordan
Posted on 2/18/13 at 12:02 pm to shel311
quote:I didn't assign any ratings, I said they were evidence. You want a one to one correlation so you can argue Tony Parker and Rasheed Wallace. Sports, movies, music and life don't work that way. Only dungeons and dragons and fantasy sports.
And if you do, make sure to assign random, arbitrary will and determination ratings to each title that in reality, are impossible to make with ANY certainty at all.
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