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re: DFS now ILLEGAL in Nevada. How will Draft Kings-FanDuel Respond?
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:10 pm to Hogkiller10
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:10 pm to Hogkiller10
In other words "in-state gambling industry paid us to prevent our citizens from using online gambling sites that compete with them ."
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:15 pm to emanresu
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Gambling doesn't just mean "betting." Whether it is "gambling", and therefore requires a license, depends on whether some bureaucracy determines that it is a game of chance or a game of skill.
The argument of the amount of skill or chance in a game has a very small factor in which the game is actually legal or not, and zero difference whether the game is considered gambling or not.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:25 pm to Hogkiller10
That reeks of "Don't worry Caesars sports book. We got your back"
I'm convinced if they wouldn't have carpet bombed TV with ads, they wouldn't be facing this shite.
I'm convinced if they wouldn't have carpet bombed TV with ads, they wouldn't be facing this shite.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:32 pm to Robin Masters
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And it made my Sundays much more exciting too!
"It's made it a llllllot more interesting..."
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:40 pm to Hogkiller10
Works still in my state.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 10:45 pm to timbo
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I'm convinced if they wouldn't have carpet bombed TV with ads, they wouldn't be facing this shite.
Considering two of their investors are Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft, I wouldn't say they felt they had any reason to hide themselves. They were in plain sight once the organizations like the NFL, ESPN, NBC, the NBA, Comcast became investors.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:25 am to miamitiger
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would of this license to operate happen?
Can you translate this?
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:08 am to vengeanceofrain
quote:Do you think the state of Nevada might have an interest in preventing horse races from being fixed? Without licensing and regulation they have no ability to prevent fixing races. The same applies to daily fantasy. Given the recent release regarding use of inside information, how can anyone claim that the games were fair to the general public? That is the main purpose of the regulations, to make the games fair for all players.
they did not say it's illegal they said you have to have a liscense. Horse racing went through the same shite about 10 years ago all the sports books i used shut down overnight and now there are only a handful of online betting sites, all owned by the tracks basically.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:14 am to Poodlebrain
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That is the main purpose of the regulations, to make the games fair for all players.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:24 am to ForeverGator
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When people choose the same damn people, it comes down to the random guy that catches his first TD of his career or whatever it is. It's like the lottery, except you already know 5 of the numbers and just need to guess the 6th.
Well choosing players requires some degree of research. Someone with zero knowledge of sports who conducts no research that would put together a lineup would have a tough time defeating someone head to head who does have that knowledge and has researched. How is that not skill?
Contrast that with roulette. You pick a number and I pick a number and whoever's number comes up on the wheel wins. There is nothing in the world I can do that would give me any kind of edge over you. That is complete luck.
There is no doubt a luck factor to it when several similarly skilled players compete against each other, but as the guy below you said, a game can involve both luck and skill. It's not an all or nothing deal.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:48 am to harry coleman beast
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Hopefully they respond by not showing commercials
In the name of all that is holy, please this
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:17 am to UncleFestersLegs
Laugh all you want, but gaming regulations protect the players from abuses by the casinos and other players. Their purpose is to give every player an equal chance.
What experience do you have dealing with gaming regulators that triggered your reaction? I spent several years in senior management at a casino company dealing with regulators in Nevada, Louisiana and Mississippi. The regulators had different goals than the tax collectors.
Nevada also has an interest in collecting taxes from the daily fantasy operators, and that is certainly part of its motivation. However, fair games are also motivation for Nevada to act since daily fantasy competes with regulated gaming in Nevada.
What experience do you have dealing with gaming regulators that triggered your reaction? I spent several years in senior management at a casino company dealing with regulators in Nevada, Louisiana and Mississippi. The regulators had different goals than the tax collectors.
Nevada also has an interest in collecting taxes from the daily fantasy operators, and that is certainly part of its motivation. However, fair games are also motivation for Nevada to act since daily fantasy competes with regulated gaming in Nevada.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:37 am to ForeverGator
quote:it's both, skilled players can reduce the randomness over a representative sample size.
Well... It is gambling and not based on "skill."
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 10:39 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:39 am to timbo
quote:Vegas doesn't care about these commercials.
I'm convinced if they wouldn't have carpet bombed TV with ads, they wouldn't be facing this shite
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:20 am to Poodlebrain
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but gaming regulations protect the players from abuses by the casinos and other players. Their purpose is to give every player an equal chance.
that's the theory behind all regulations but as usual intentions and results are not always the same. Eventually the regulated industry "works" with the regulators and uses regulations to limit competition. This is a classic case. Same with online poker. The big casinos don't want competition and big government wants more power, win/win for them. loss for fans of the sites.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:25 am to auburnu008
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Nevada mafia is so fricking corrupt.
fify
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:26 am to Poodlebrain
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Do you think the state of Nevada might have an interest in preventing horse races from being fixed? Without licensing and regulation they have no ability to prevent fixing races.
This is the classic statist justification for the boards, however you do not need to require a licence to prevent fixing, fraud is already against the law and requiring one does not guarantee there will never be fixing.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 11:33 am to shel311
Those constant commercials annoy the shite out of people. And when politicians talk about doing something about those companies, they hear voters say "Yay! Go after them and do something about those stupid commercials!"
Now, in Nevada, I get that the sports books are trying to protect their revenue streams. And regulators are worried about anything that reduces the amount of money that sports books bring in or cuts down the number of people that work in sports books.
Now, in Nevada, I get that the sports books are trying to protect their revenue streams. And regulators are worried about anything that reduces the amount of money that sports books bring in or cuts down the number of people that work in sports books.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:34 pm to timbo
quote:lol no.
Those constant commercials annoy the shite out of people. And when politicians talk about doing something about those companies, they hear voters say "Yay! Go after them and do something about those stupid commercials!"
Also, membership has gone up by crazy amounts since those commercials came about, so there's that.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:30 pm to shel311
A great way to regulate it and make it more of a skill game would be limiting multi entires to 15-20 max. I know guys putting in 150-200.
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