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re: Deshaun Watson has officially requested a trade

Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:14 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:14 am to
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Agreed but if Watson sits out you have neither.
He is going to sit out on 3 years 110 million?

He would literally be the dumbest human of all time. He has no play here
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:14 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27833 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:14 am to
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what could possibly go wrong
I’d be willing to find out.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:14 am to
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Not that I blame him, but I hope the Texans say no and make him sit out

I dont want the NFL turning into the NBA where players just choose completely where and when they want to play


Yep. This could be a tipping point not just for Houston, but the NFL as a whole. The NBA seems to become a more pathetic product by the day. But the players essentially run the league and the stars demanding to team up on 4-5 big franchises is bad for the product as a whole.

The Texans have ALL of the leverage here. Trade him if another team is willing to give you a HUGE haul for him, but otherwise, sit tight and make him "retire" (he won't)
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62992 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:15 am to
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The Texans have been searching for their franchise QB since their inception in 2002. They finally nailed it in the draft and found their guy, and now he wants out after his 3rd full season.

And after just 1 bad season. They were 10-6 and 11-5 the two previous seasons. It’s not like they’ve been the Bengals.



They are a disaster of a franchise at the moment. If you don’t think so you haven’t been paying attention
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:15 am to
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And after just 1 bad season. They were 10-6 and 11-5 the two previous seasons. It’s not like they’ve been the Bengals.



Bill O'Brien purged a lot of talent from that team. Miami should be on the phone working on a deal to bring Watson into their franchise which includes 1st rd picks and Tua.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:16 am to
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Agreed but if Watson sits out you have neither. That’s the issue with doing what he’s suggesting
If he doesn’t play he doesn’t get paid.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108216 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:16 am to
Watson has no leverage

He would have to sit out 3 years, lose a 110 million, and come out the other side as a 28 year old QB who hasnt played in 3 years
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115570 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:17 am to
It would be pretty impossible given the current CBA construction to have player movement like the NBA so I don’t think collusion is necessary to preserve the league quite yet

Let’s not act like this is a decision made over night, he let a lot of shite go since he’s been there and it’s pretty clear they are completely dysfunctional and will harm his career the longer he stays there.

It’s not like Lebron telling teams to make moves to ruin their future then bolting for a city with a beach, this is more akin to Kevin Garnett finally getting out of the black hole in Minnesota (probably better examples)


That being said if I’m the Texans I probably just call his bluff, because the cards are massively stacked against Watson if they do.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62992 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:17 am to
Or he shows up and makes life miserable for everyone. Either way it’s not a good scenario for the Texans. Unless a bunch of teams start hiring team chaplains as GMs I don’t see this starting some NBA wave.

Stars always dictated the league powers in the NBA, they just hadn’t teamed up in the past. It’s the nature of basketball as a sport. Football is different
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108216 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:18 am to
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Let’s not act like this is a decision made over night, he let a lot of shite go since he’s been there and it’s pretty clear they are completely dysfunctional and will harm his career the longer he stays there.
Then he should have said no to the 4 year 127 million dollar contract he signed only a year ago
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61913 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:18 am to
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I got an idea. Call his bluff. Don’t trade him.

He just signed a 4 year contract extension. Now that he secured the bag he’s gonna request a trade?



This is a real option for Houston. It's why his price tag is going to be so high.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27833 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:18 am to
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They are a disaster of a franchise at the moment. If you don’t think so you haven’t been paying attention
I agree.. but after a little adversity he wants to cut and run? After his 3rd full season?

It’s bullshite. It’s not like he’s a vet with 10 years in and he wants to go somewhere and win.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149413 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:19 am to
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but after a little adversity he wants to cut and run?
whats happened this past year with the texans is not just some simple adversity that is normal to go through
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27833 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:20 am to
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The he should have said no to the 4 year 127 million dollar contract he signed only a year ago
Not even a year ago. He signed his contract in September. Just 4 months ago.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61913 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:20 am to
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The Texans won't be able to field a competitive team before 2026 unless they are able to trade him for a king's ransom.



The history of the NFL has proven this is false. Teams making good decisions with good coaching can turn it around very quickly.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115570 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:20 am to
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The he should have said no to the 4 year 127 million dollar contract he signed only a year ago


It was a massive underpay relative to his value so I agree regardless of the organizational dysfunction but it’s a bit hard to tell a guy with a history of knee injuries to not take the first pay day and the issue is that the Texans offered him a ton of things in that process that they never followed through on, so it’s easy to see where he felt lied to or conned into that deal.


At the end of the day it just comes down to leverage. Watsons main leverage is the PR of a public trade request. It’s not much but it may be enough for a team whose probably tired of being the laughing stock of the league for 2 plus years
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:21 am to
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Not that I blame him, but I hope the Texans say no and make him sit out

I dont want the NFL turning into the NBA where players just choose completely where and when they want to play



Here's the thing, I want his feet to be held to the fire and be forced to play in Houston. I don't want the NFL to turn into the NBA.

But that's not the most efficient move and certainly doesn't recognize the cudgel of him crying "slavery" and the pundits decrying the hypocrisy of how Watson is forced to honor a contract while the team could just cut or trade him.

We'll see if the Texans have the guts to face the fire.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78412 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:21 am to
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but after a little adversity he wants to cut and run?

They aren't taking positive steps to improve things.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
27434 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:21 am to
frick JACK EASTERBY
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13133 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:21 am to
Texans have brought this on themselves with their utter incompetence and in insistence of letting a freaking chaplin dictate the dealings of the team.

Don’t expect them to get many free agents as long as Esterby is there. I don’t blame DrShaun because they are making the Bungles and Browns during their horrid stretch look well run NFL franchises.

You can’t make up the kind of stupidity that Cal McNair has brought.
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