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re: Department of Education rescinds Biden admin Title IX guidance re: rev sharing

Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:29 am to
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Good point. It should be one or the other.


And let's not forget these are in fact legal adults making this argument.

Imagine the audacity of a legal adult demanding an employer share company revenue with them while also demanding to have certain additional protections relative to job security not afforded to anyone else in the private sector.

Either enjoy the protections afforded to students or behave as the rest of the workforce does. Not both.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:33 am to
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100%. It just annoys me to see student athletes argue for what is effectively an employment relationship with their universities but when the down side of that relationship manifests itself (getting cut for subpar performance, loss of roster spots, etc.) suddenly they want to be "students" again. Pick one or the other like everyone else.


There’s clearly competing interests. Women’s sand volleyball isn’t going to have the same view on this as Nico or Nuss or Lagway, etc.

There’s still value in interscholastic athletics that don’t drive revenue to the athletic department and/or university, but it’s also clearly unfair for players who bring tens to hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue not to get some commensurate piece of that pie.

The problem is there’s bad actors on each side, the NCAA being one of them for decades
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13310 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:38 am to
How about they simply remove college sports period. Return them to club sports, and let these "athletes" stop the charade of being students and the pro leagues like the NFL pay for their own minor leagues?

Universities can still rent out their stadium to said league and make revenue for education that way.

This is the point. Stop claiming you are a student athlete. It's an insult to actual student athletes there to get an education.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53815 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:42 am to
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players who bring tens to hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue


They’re not worth shite without the uniforms they wear
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:21 am to
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They’re not worth shite without the uniforms they wear


Oh really? WOW! It’s almost like there would be something like the teams get part of the revenue and the players get part, maybe they could even agree upon what both parties think is an equitable split

That would be crazy!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:22 am to
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How about they simply remove college sports period. Return them to club sports, and let these "athletes" stop the charade of being students and the pro leagues like the NFL pay for their own minor leagues?
How Scruffy wishes it would be.

Time to drop the facade.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:23 am to
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How about they simply remove college sports period. Return them to club sports, and let these "athletes" stop the charade of being students and the pro leagues like the NFL pay for their own minor leagues?


What do you propose they do for every other sport other than football and basketball?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38090 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:33 pm to
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How about they simply remove college sports period. Return them to club sports, and let these "athletes" stop the charade of being students and the pro leagues like the NFL pay for their own minor leagues?

How Scruffy wishes it would be.

Time to drop the facade.
That's how they do it in other countries.

IMO, you're either an employee of the university or you're a student/athlete of it. NIL is just the tip of the can of worms that's been opened.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17873 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:19 pm to
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i hate title 9 and dept of education but I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally, just like scholarship counts.


Top 5 worst comments in the history of this entire website.

Just incredibly stupid you must love handouts.

This is whats wrong with our country. Parents teaching their kids how to get handouts and how to leech off the folks making money rather than teach them to do work to help them be the one making the money.

Instead lets all eat off of the football players table.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17873 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:20 pm to
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quote:
but I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally,



Why?



Because morons love wasting money, especially if it isnt theirs.

This guy wants football to fund all the sports that arent profitable. Its so stupuid.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32501 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:04 pm to
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the NCAA being one of them for decades


At the behest of the schools.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26289 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:41 pm to
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The problem is there’s bad actors on each side, the NCAA being one of them for decades


From what I gather, the ncaa wanted to keep amateurism in college sports.

Now we have nil and 10rc took them to court so they could use nil as a recruiting tool. And here we are. Way to go 10rc, what a plague you put upon the sport.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:01 pm to
This is not in keeping with the spirit of Title IX at all. Is this the outcome of Trump meeting with Tubs and Saban? If so, they just screwed a bunch of female athletes.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64170 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:07 pm to
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If so, they just screwed a bunch of female athletes.


I wasn't given free food today by a stranger. Was i screwed as well?


Women sports don't earn anything. It's a communist arrangement to FORCE men's sports to pay for net negative women's sports
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44229 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 4:10 pm to
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i hate title 9 and dept of education but I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally, just like scholarship counts.



While I disagree with you, I feel that's how the courts are going to rule.
Title IX law lawyers are about to get busy.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 5:55 pm to
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While I disagree with you, I feel that's how the courts are going to rule.


The courts have been ruling the complete opposite of that for 5 years now
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9651 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 7:06 am to
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just like scholarship counts.


You mean like the 11.7 scholarships for baseball? Unless it has changed no player could get a full scholarship.

Tulane lady basketball some years couldn't/wouldn't give out all scholarships because there wasn't anyone good enough to give a scholarship to......so should 1 or 2 of there unused scholarships go to the baseball team?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53815 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:02 am to
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Tulane lady basketball some years couldn't/wouldn't give out all scholarships because there wasn't anyone good enough to give a scholarship to


How many were on the roster? I think it’s cruel to have scholarships unused when there are players on the roster without them
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9651 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:35 am to
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How many were on the roster? I think it’s cruel to have scholarships unused when there are players on the roster without them


All the players were on scholarship. They had extra scholarships that were not used.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53815 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:07 pm to
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All the players were on scholarship. They had extra scholarships that were not used.


Oh that’s different
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