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re: Deion Sanders surprised a white kid can run a 4.35 40

Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

uote:
If we had a team at my school I would have definitely played on the team.
We had a female team but no male team

I would have jumped at the opportunity to play in HS.


if you're white, it wouldn't have mattered ...

Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:46 pm to
Gonna train day and night to either play in the NBA, play CB in the NFL, or rap.


I'm sure that I'll be given a fair shot.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35451 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:56 pm to
In the 1980's during a roundtable discussion with Peter Jennings after the Jimmy Greek comments...

The track coach at Stanford said he was going to find a white Carl Lewis - to show that it's all work ethic and not what you are born with.

It never happened.

But this isn't news to anyone...just like Nuke Laloosh and Nolan Ryan, either you are born with the arm of God or not. Practice doesn't make your fastball faster. You can slightly increase your sprinting speed but either you are WC fast or like every other mortal - not fast.



Integration happened. Reality happened.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35451 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:56 pm to
dp
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted by martiallaw
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
1453 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:27 pm to
Deion was shocked because white people don't run 4.35 40's. This kid maybe the fastest white guy ever at the NFL combine. The faux outrage is nauseating.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:26 pm to
In California

75% Asians competent in math and English

70 whites English
54% whites math

Philipino 60% English
57% math

Latino 30s

AAs 20s.

The numbers on tests in CA are like this every year.

TOP Asians
White

Latino close to bottom or tied for last.


Last. AA
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2028 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:44 pm to
Who cares. Genetic freaks come in all shapes and colors. Of the four tallest players in NBA history, only one was a kang. The other three were a kraut, a gypsy, and a chinaman.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:04 pm to
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Jimmy the Greek lost his gig and was never really heard from again when he suggested black people were not good swimmers.


Jimmy the Greek was fired for a helluva lot more than that.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35451 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:18 pm to
Jimmy the Greek was fired because he said black American athletes were "bred" as slaves.

He should have just said American athletes with Western African heritage are really fast and this has been proven at every Olympics and it's in their genes.

If he just said that he would have been mostly fine. (Although people back then also didn't like to admit genetic differences of any sort when it was so obvious in dunking competitions or the long-jump or the 100M.)

But the Greek was so stupid to bring up slavery...and treating humans like chattel...200 years of some stupid breeding idea isn't going to produce a superior athlete. It was already there from West Africa. Thousands of years of evolution...not 200 years of plantation life.

He should have just said - when proded and provoked by the news guy..."why are black athletes so much better than white athletes?"

He should have just said...genes, dummy. But everyone was afraid to say that back then...because if you implied genes, the liberals assumed you were saying...nobody worked for it. People were crazy, still are. There's obvious differences in different athletic abilities.

So yes, Deion should be surprised that a white guy runs a 4.35 40 - that's crazy for a white athlete. White guys - golf, tennis, swimming, hockey, baseball...being the fastest man on the planet - not happening.

This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30166 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:19 pm to
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I’m by no means offended by this


Because people with any amount of security and intelligence don't give a frick.

PC culture exists because people catered to the whiny bitches who use their skin color, sexuality, etc... as an excuse for sucking at life.

But this isn't the poli-board, so my bad.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:15 am to
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Jimmy the Greek was fired because he said black American athletes were "bred" as slaves.

He should have just said American athletes with Western African heritage are really fast and this has been proven at every Olympics and it's in their genes.

If he just said that he would have been mostly fine. (Although people back then also didn't like to admit genetic differences of any sort when it was so obvious in dunking competitions or the long-jump or the 100M.)

But the Greek was so stupid to bring up slavery...and treating humans like chattel...200 years of some stupid breeding idea isn't going to produce a superior athlete. It was already there from West Africa. Thousands of years of evolution...not 200 years of plantation life.

He should have just said - when proded and provoked by the news guy..."why are black athletes so much better than white athletes?"

He should have just said...genes, dummy. But everyone was afraid to say that back then...because if you implied genes, the liberals assumed you were saying...nobody worked for it. People were crazy, still are. There's obvious differences in different athletic abilities.

So yes, Deion should be surprised that a white guy runs a 4.35 40 - that's crazy for a white athlete. White guys - golf, tennis, swimming, hockey, baseball...being the fastest man on the planet - not happening.


He also tried claiming that African-Americans have an extra muscle in their thighs that helps them run faster and jump higher.

I agree with you. He should have just genetics, but he went off the deep end.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30161 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:29 am to

Carolina Panthers S and ST gunner Colin Jones ran a 4.31 at TCU's Pro Day in 2011.

Some had him timed under 4.30s.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:35 am to
Did Deion forget about Tim Dwight?

highlights
local tribute piece/ interview











Oh, and on top of being a football badass and a handsome,hairless devil, Tim Dwight was also a Big Ten Champion in the 100m with a PR
Posted by SailorGator
Member since Sep 2014
1395 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:50 am to
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While, there isnt many white dudes that run 4.35.


not many people at all run a 4.35 40. at the elite end of things, blacks make up the majority of world class sprinters, etc.

that said, most people of any race aren't very athletic. i was in the top 10 in the 100m in louisiana my junior year. actually two white guys in the top 10. i grew up around a ton of black people in south louisiana and compared to people with real athletic ability, most blacks aren't very athletic at all. slow, weak, etc. just normal people. maybe more "athletic" than the average white guy, but still not athletic in any real sense.

the thing to me that sticks out with black athletes is the way they move. not necessarily straight line speed. hell, brian urlacher had a better 40 time at the combine than reggie bush.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 5:54 am to
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It’s not as funny when you have to edit a joke.


This is so true.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:28 am to
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Because people with any amount of security and intelligence don't give a frick.

PC culture exists because people catered to the whiny bitches who use their skin color, sexuality, etc... as an excuse for sucking at life.

But this isn't the poli-board, so my bad.

exactly and the point is Deion would be outraged if the same was said about a different race.

It doesn’t bother me. I’m also one who believes people who raise their kids to worship professional athletes as idols are retards.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 7:31 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 7:41 am to
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And you are right that genetically, you'd think that blacks would be superb swimmers


That's incorrect. I forget all the factors, but there are some physical differences between whites and blacks that affect buoyancy. I think the way fat deposits on the body and/or muscle leanness are some of them. Perhaps torso length versus leg length also plays a part, I forget, which (leg length in proportion to total body length) also plays into the reason why blacks are generally faster than whites in running.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2961 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 9:08 am to
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I get what you are trying to say, but which is more detrimental to society, people believing blacks are stupid, or people thinking white guys are slow?

Since athletes are more highly regarded in current society than scientists, you tell me.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 9:24 am to
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Well, there are plenty of blacks who score high on the wonderlic. While, there isnt many white dudes that run 4.35.


You must not have scored that well.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4503 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 11:04 am to
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Jimmy the Greek lost his gig and was never really heard from again when he suggested black people were not good swimmers.


The swimmers comment was Al Campanis, not Jimmy the Greek
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