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re: DAT Offseason Thread: Sorry Not Sorry. Still 2017 Champs.

Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:26 pm to
Kinda curious what SP are they get getting for say 3 years 55 million, Dallas? Hamels?
Could they have taken Verlander sure, but reports we're the Tigers wanted more prospects than the Astros reportedly gave up. He was also more expensive even with Detroit chipping in some.
Morton wasn't coming to NY either... They landed Paxton and German fricking up thinned the pitching even more. SP wasn't the issue this year or last.
This post was edited on 11/2/19 at 7:30 pm
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:32 pm to
They made some good FO moves that put them in striking distance, even w key injuries

Stanton was not a good one, following Elsbury, IMO

I’m not a fan of any albatross deals, period

Don’t even want Cole at what he will command. Harper, Machado, et al, all go to losers

Cole will too
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Rondon


I’m with you on everything you said but this.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:40 pm to
The Yankees don't make that deal without the Marlins taking on Castro and the remaining 44 million (option declined this upcoming) so the Yankees are paying 55 million over 3. If Stanton opts out that is it. If he doesn't the Yankees get 30 million to cover the remaining 7 years on his deal at which time he makes. Essentially a 10 year 260 million deal for the Yankees which is what it will be. Not great but he had a productive first year. Needs more
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:43 pm to
Not a real bad deal certainly, but going in a different direction could have resulted in production somewhere this year that made the difference

Of course it’s hindsight, but still a commitment ghat hindered their ability to get or have what they needed when it mattered
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 5:57 am to
You keep mentioning different direction? What direction? SP which I asked who would have been available for what the Yankees paid Stanton the last 2 years and nothing. The Yankees made moves to address SP in Paxton and Happ. Happ looked horrible this year but was fantastic last year, had he pitched like last year, had Severino and Montgomery been healthy it is a different team.
There has been no pitcher worth signing that would be Verlander or Cole so that is out of the question. Gray struggled as a Yankee and that is part of the reason the Yankees let go of Larry after watching Gray turn it around again.


Now back to the Astros I could see them with the players mentioned. All young with some past success but more recent struggles. Whitley and Tucker also need to be on this team either opening day or not soon after. You've refused to trade them for years and now is the time for them to sink or swim.
Altuve, Springer, and Bregman are the backbone of the team but Correa is one of the more talented players. A healthy Correa is a 8 WAR player or close to it.
Also need for another strong season from Verlander and Greinke to anchor the rotation verlander will be 37 to start the season and Greinke just turned
35. Brantly and Gurriel are only other two 30+ year old starters. Brantly had his first healthy year in a long time, so do you keep Reddick in case he progresses and do you start looking for help at 1B with Gurriel or try Yordan out during spring training to keep his bat in the lineup?
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 6:06 am
Posted by High C
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:44 am to
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do you keep Reddick


If you can unload him for anything reasonable, no.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:45 am to
OF of Springer, Brantly, Tucker with Jake as a 4th?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:59 am to
Yes
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:09 am to
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MLB experimented with an electronic strike zone in the Arizona Fall League this season, and it proved rather unpopular with pitchers and hitters alike, writes Josh Norris of Baseball America. While players effused praise for the system’s proficiency on the corners, calls at the top and bottom of the zone were less well-received. Additionally, the delay between the system’s tracking the pitch and relaying of that decision to the home-plate umpire caused some awkward exchanges. Of course, growing pains are to be expected, and the electronic zone is at least consistent, Norris adds, so MLB figures to continue to test its viability in lower-stakes games 
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:08 pm to
Yuli, Altuve and Bergman finish 2nd at their positions for Gold Glove. Houston runners up is starting to have a familiar ring to it.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:13 pm to
Yuli surprises me honestly from the games I watched. Whoke he was good i never thought "gold glove" good
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:16 pm to
Yuli was the Astros MVP this year. Period.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:17 pm to
Greinke wins an NL Gold Glove. idgaf, parade that thing through downtown Houston.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:31 pm to
My comments are more directed at taking on Stanton, when offense was less of an issue

Yankees had the same opportunities and obviously a wealth of young talent to make a pitching move when it mattered most

They went for a stick that never factored
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:38 pm to
Again, Yankees took him on because his contract was essentially 15 million a year and there was no FA pitcher worth that at the time. It was one of those too good a deals to pass up. So not sure where your point lands since you haven't indicated one pitcher the Yankees would have instead of Stanton or the fact Stanton kept them afloat last year with Judge and others on the sideline.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 7:44 pm to
More to the point of how it played out this year

Cashman is very good at his job

I just dislike players like Stanton, Harper, Machado getting deals that essentially end their respective teams chances at accomplishing team goals

Im against the Astros signing any position player for more than 25/yr for longer than 4 yrs. Those deals never work out for the team

I’m glad the Yankees went for the sweetheart deal from Jeter. It probably kept them out of the WS
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:58 am to
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so do you keep Reddick in case he progresses


Only if it's your last option.

quote:

do you start looking for help at 1B with Gurriel or try Yordan out during spring training to keep his bat in the lineup?


Tucker is the guy that might move to 1B if Yuli doesn't stick around after next year. He started playing there some at AAA and even got a few innings at 1B in the majors.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Daniel Gotera

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#Astros owner Jim Crane on the possibility of bringing back Gerrit Cole: “Were going to make a run at it”

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