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DAT Offseason Thread: Sorry Not Sorry. Still 2017 Champs.

Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted by bnb9433
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Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:55 pm to
The Astros will find a way to be just as dominant next season. They’ll just have to do it a different way.

They might lack the dominance of Cole at the top of the rotation, but they maybe could do just as well with depth. Young guys will step up.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Drew Brews
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:55 pm to
2020 To-Do List

1. Extend George
2. Replace Cole (suggestions?)
3. Resign Harris and Smith on the cheap
4. Win AL West
5. Break my heart
Posted by High C
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:56 pm to
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bnb9433


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:57 pm to
Still a great season... just hate that it ended with so much wasted opportunity.

Still going to be the AL West favorites next year, even after Cole goes to Anaheim.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:58 pm to
There’s some interesting under the radar pitchers who could be available for fairly cheap. Porcello intrigues me as a bounce back type we might be able to get the most out of. None are going to be Cole. I expect next years rotation to be

Verlander
Greinke
McCullers
Urquidy
FA or trade addition

With Sánchez a possibility or filling a swing role
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:58 pm to
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2. Replace Cole (suggestions?)


Strasburg once he opts out.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:00 pm to
Is anyone kind of glad Cole did what he did last night so that there's no drama in the offseason over whether he may resign?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:01 pm to
Crane has already said he wants to get under the tax right? That seems like it will be hard to do considering yall have like 150 million already committed and Springer is going to get over 20 in arbitration. Going to be a weird offseason for yall if Crane actually forces that on luhnow
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

There’s some interesting under the radar pitchers who could be available for fairly cheap.


Free agents SPs...

Starting pitchers

Gerrit Cole (29 years old, 7.4 WAR)
Stephen Strasburg (31, 5.7) -- can opt out of 4 years, $100 million remaining on contract
Hyun-Jin Ryu (33, 4.8)
Zack Wheeler (30, 4.7)
Jake Odorizzi (30, 4.3)
Jose Quintana (31, 3.3) -- $11.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Madison Bumgarner (30, 3.2)
Homer Bailey (34, 2.9)
Michael Pineda (30, 2.7)
Yu Darvish (33, 2.6) -- can opt out of 4 years, $81 million remaining on contract
Kyle Gibson (32, 2.5)
Cole Hamels (36, 2.5)
Adam Wainwright (38, 2.2)
Tanner Roark (33, 2.0)
Wade Miley (33, 2.0)
Brett Anderson (32, 2.0)
Ivan Nova (33, 2.0)
Martin Perez (29, 1.9) -- $7.5 million club option for 2020 ($500,000 buyout)
Andrew Cashner (33, 1.8) -- $10 million club option for 2020
Jason Vargas (37, 1.8) -- $8 million club option for 2020 ($2 million buyout)
Rick Porcello (31, 1.8)
Julio Teheran (29, 1.6) -- $12 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Gio Gonzalez (34, 1.4)
Jake Arrieta (34, 1.1) -- can opt out of 1 year, $20 million remaining on contract unless Phillies exercise 2-year, $40 million option
Rich Hill (40, 0.9)
Dallas Keuchel (32, 0.8)
Chris Archer (31, 0.7) -- $9 million club option for 2020 ($1.75 million buyout)
Corey Kluber (34, 0.6) -- $17.5 million club option for 2020 ($1 million buyout)
Matt Moore (31, 0.5)
Clay Buchholz (35, 0.1)
Tyson Ross (33, 0.0)
Felix Hernandez (34, -0.1)
Jhoulys Chacin (32, -0.1)
Jeremy Hellickson (33, -0.1)
Odrisamer Despaigne (33, -0.1)
Michael Wacha (28, -0.2)
Alex Wood (29, -0.2)
Edinson Volquez (36, -0.2)
Marco Estrada (36, -0.2)
Shelby Miller (29, -0.2)
Clayton Richard (36, -0.2)
Drew Smyly (29, -0.3)
Wade LeBlanc (35, -0.3) -- $5 million club option for 2020 ($450,000 buyout)
Matt Harvey (31, -0.3)
Héctor Noesi (33, -0.3)
Ervin Santana (37, -0.4)
Trevor Cahill (32, -0.8)
Derek Holland (33, -1.0)
Edwin Jackson (36, -1.1)




I think Wheeler or Odorizzi would be excellent grabs that Strom could work with.

I also don't hate the idea of seeing what Felix Hernandez could do with some more pine tar... er, spin rate.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:02 pm to
Luhnow always manages to find some low cost, unexciting but surprisingly productive pitcher to add

Scott Feldman
Charlie Morton
Wade Miley
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:05 pm to
Altuve and Bregman have been paid. Has Correa? I know Springer will need to work something out.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
4109 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:06 pm to
I agree! Trade Correa and get the haul. Move Bregs to short and sign Donaldson.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Has Correa?


No.

He'll get paid either through an extension or through arbitration.

Same with Springer, but he's one year closer to free agency.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60159 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:07 pm to
They’re going to have to work some financial magic to be able to afford a Wheeler or Odorizzi
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

The Astros will find a way to be just as dominant next season. They’ll just have to do it a different way.

They might lack the dominance of Cole at the top of the rotation, but they maybe could do just as well with depth. Young guys will step up.





I'd like to go back to 2017 where our team was carried by the offense.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23121 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:07 pm to
Ride or die with the Astros and we died game 180.

Luck does exist based on the first 4-5 innings last night. Sad way for it to end. I will not blame Hinch for getting Grienke out, he did what he thought was best based on how that inning was going. The walk to Soto was crap, but you are putting in a guy you trust to get a couple outs in Harris.

On to 2019, now I can get my weeknights back and to the gym early in the mornings
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I agree! Trade Correa and get the haul.


Highly unlikely to happen... but... if it does...

quote:

Move Bregs to short and sign Donaldson.


Sign Rendon, not Donaldson.
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