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Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:55 pm to
Not a bad curve ball towards the bottom of the zone.

:sortofwant:
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:25 am to
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Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:11 pm to
I was having a conversation with someone yesterday and I thought it was interesting scenario:

Sign Machado to 7 years with 2 player options. Opt-out clause in year 3.

Trade Correa for a #2 started that has relatively longish team control with lots of upside.

Trade some talents/skills not named Whitley or Tucker for Realmuto, who agrees to a 5 yr deal.

So, two things --

1) What would be the reaction from the fan-base?

and more importantly (unless you're AstroBaw)...

2) What would this do to the short-term and long-terms of the team? Would it make them a WS favorite? Would it disrupt team chemistry negatively?

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:41 pm to
I've said all along that Correa is likely odd man out when looking long term at the roster, but adding Machado w/o long term investment outside of Altuve doesn't make sense to me, because Correa can produce those numbers and add value to a future deal.

I do get your line of thinking though.

I'm holding out hope that we get Bumgarner at deadline.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I do get your line of thinking though.


Not terribly important, but the scenario I posed was not mine. It was posed by my neighbor, who keeps insisting that the Astros are still the leader for Realmuto.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:23 pm to
We haven't talked about him much this off season but I'm seeing a lot of people talking about Josh James. I'm pretty excited to see what he'll do this season. I've seen him predicted as AL Rookie of the Year and Buster Olney has him as a dark horse All Star candidate.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:30 pm to
This year's slogan

Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:47 pm to
At least we have acknowledged that we have settled
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:04 pm to
I hope they make a performance shirt with the new slogan this year.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:48 pm to
Phillies went completely stupid and threw in Sixto... only way to beat their offer was to include Whitley. I’m glad Luhnow doesn’t make emotional trades. Phillies gave up way too much for Realmuto.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:57 pm to
No doubt, even if Realmuto goes 25/100 and throws out 50%, would not give up Whitley.

Tucker though would have been a different story.
Posted by Off McVoy
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 2:10 pm to
Well, we're not winning a championship with our current roster of catchers.....
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:48 pm to
I’m certainly not in love with our catchers and on record with that at the same time the position is EXTREMELY weak and really the only standouts are posey who’s about to have to move off the position and Realmuto and I’m not sure the price for 120 games of Realmuto should be payed and think the phils overpaid. Could make a much cheaper move and get cervelli.

Essentially a long way to say the two non mediocre catchers in the league are with the giants and Phillies who aren’t winning the WS. Whoever wins the WS will do so with a mediocre backstop
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:56 pm to
Maybe, but I bet they don’t also also have a light hitting left fielder, right fielder and DH. We needed Realmuto. This team needs another big bat. Period.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 5:32 pm to
The Astros are not a playoff team with the current roster. Mark these words
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

The Astros are not a playoff team with the current roster. Mark these words


Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 3:17 pm to
It's February 10th and Dallas Keuchel doesn't have a job. Any thoughts on bringing him back? I think his contract demands will have been lowered since the beginning of the off season. The Wade Miley move would seem to signify we're out on Keuchel.


I'm somewhat torn on Keuchel. You'd probably have to assume 3-4 years and a minimum of $70 million (Rick Porcello got 4/82). If we bring him back, who's out? Josh James? Obviously hes unproven compared to Keuchel but I'm higher on James potential.

Keuchel is known commodity. Hes projected at 200 innings and mid to high 3 ERA. Behind JV and Cole, he'll be an above average innings eater. The thing I most consider is the rotation beyond this year... JV is a free agent, Cole is a free agent (and likely the most sought after pitcher on the market), McHugh is a free agent. Is it worth the price to lock in an above average pitcher ahead of a potential rotation decimation in 2020?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 3:31 pm to
Do something unique, offer him essentially 4-year deal but an opt out after a year. Would help the Stros and if he has a strong season he can opt out and try FA again.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/10/19 at 4:04 pm to
Luhnow pretty much big sayonara to Keuchel, Marwin, and Gattis a few days ago, wishing them good luck and thanking them for their contributions.
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