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According to multiple sources there are indeed “mystery” team(s) in on Bryce Harper that the public is not aware of…and as many texts/emails & phone calls I’ve made…I still can’t find them…..#Braves ? #Cardinals ? #Astros ? #Giants ? #Angels ? #Yankees ? #BlueJays ? I give up
Obviously it is very unlikely, but Luhnow had a deal in place for Harper at the deadline so obviously he is a fan.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Floating Change Up 
on 2/6/19 at 12:11 pm to msutiger
on 2/6/19 at 12:11 pm to msutigerI was having a conversation with someone yesterday and I thought it was interesting scenario:
Sign Machado to 7 years with 2 player options. Opt-out clause in year 3.
Trade Correa for a #2 started that has relatively longish team control with lots of upside.
Trade some talents/skills not named Whitley or Tucker for Realmuto, who agrees to a 5 yr deal.
So, two things --
1) What would be the reaction from the fan-base?
and more importantly (unless you're AstroBaw)...
2) What would this do to the short-term and long-terms of the team? Would it make them a WS favorite? Would it disrupt team chemistry negatively?
Sign Machado to 7 years with 2 player options. Opt-out clause in year 3.
Trade Correa for a #2 started that has relatively longish team control with lots of upside.
Trade some talents/skills not named Whitley or Tucker for Realmuto, who agrees to a 5 yr deal.
So, two things --
1) What would be the reaction from the fan-base?
and more importantly (unless you're AstroBaw)...
2) What would this do to the short-term and long-terms of the team? Would it make them a WS favorite? Would it disrupt team chemistry negatively?
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by wahoocs 
on 2/6/19 at 12:41 pm to Floating Change Up
on 2/6/19 at 12:41 pm to Floating Change UpI've said all along that Correa is likely odd man out when looking long term at the roster, but adding Machado w/o long term investment outside of Altuve doesn't make sense to me, because Correa can produce those numbers and add value to a future deal.
I do get your line of thinking though.
I'm holding out hope that we get Bumgarner at deadline.
I do get your line of thinking though.
I'm holding out hope that we get Bumgarner at deadline.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Floating Change Up on 2/6/19 at 1:00 pm to wahoocs
on 2/6/19 at 1:00 pm to wahoocsquote:
I do get your line of thinking though.
Not terribly important, but the scenario I posed was not mine. It was posed by my neighbor, who keeps insisting that the Astros are still the leader for Realmuto.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Lsuhoohoo on 2/6/19 at 1:23 pm to Floating Change Up
on 2/6/19 at 1:23 pm to Floating Change UpWe haven't talked about him much this off season but I'm seeing a lot of people talking about Josh James. I'm pretty excited to see what he'll do this season. I've seen him predicted as AL Rookie of the Year and Buster Olney has him as a dark horse All Star candidate.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by texastiger38 on 2/6/19 at 3:47 pm to Lsuhoohoo
on 2/6/19 at 3:47 pm to LsuhoohooAt least we have acknowledged that we have settled
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Mattgobear 
on 2/6/19 at 4:04 pm to texastiger38
on 2/6/19 at 4:04 pm to texastiger38I hope they make a performance shirt with the new slogan this year.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Floating Change Up on 2/7/19 at 1:48 pm to Mattgobear
on 2/7/19 at 1:48 pm to MattgobearPhillies went completely stupid and threw in Sixto... only way to beat their offer was to include Whitley. I’m glad Luhnow doesn’t make emotional trades. Phillies gave up way too much for Realmuto.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by wahoocs on 2/7/19 at 1:57 pm to Floating Change Up
on 2/7/19 at 1:57 pm to Floating Change UpNo doubt, even if Realmuto goes 25/100 and throws out 50%, would not give up Whitley.
Tucker though would have been a different story.
Tucker though would have been a different story.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Off McVoy on 2/7/19 at 2:10 pm to Floating Change Up
on 2/7/19 at 2:10 pm to Floating Change UpWell, we're not winning a championship with our current roster of catchers.....
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Adam Banks on 2/7/19 at 4:48 pm to Off McVoy
on 2/7/19 at 4:48 pm to Off McVoyI’m certainly not in love with our catchers and on record with that at the same time the position is EXTREMELY weak and really the only standouts are posey who’s about to have to move off the position and Realmuto and I’m not sure the price for 120 games of Realmuto should be payed and think the phils overpaid. Could make a much cheaper move and get cervelli.
Essentially a long way to say the two non mediocre catchers in the league are with the giants and Phillies who aren’t winning the WS. Whoever wins the WS will do so with a mediocre backstop
Essentially a long way to say the two non mediocre catchers in the league are with the giants and Phillies who aren’t winning the WS. Whoever wins the WS will do so with a mediocre backstop
This post was edited on 2/7 at 4:50 pm
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Off McVoy on 2/7/19 at 4:56 pm to Adam Banks
on 2/7/19 at 4:56 pm to Adam BanksMaybe, but I bet they don’t also also have a light hitting left fielder, right fielder and DH. We needed Realmuto. This team needs another big bat. Period.
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Tiger Ryno on 2/7/19 at 5:32 pm to Off McVoy
on 2/7/19 at 5:32 pm to Off McVoyThe Astros are not a playoff team with the current roster. Mark these words
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by msutiger on 2/7/19 at 5:37 pm to Tiger Ryno
on 2/7/19 at 5:37 pm to Tiger Ryno
re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by List Eater 
on 2/7/19 at 5:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
on 2/7/19 at 5:40 pm to Tiger Rynoquote:
The Astros are not a playoff team with the current roster. Mark these words
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re: DAT: Offseason Thread - Spring Training THIS WEEK!Posted by Lsuhoohoo on 2/10/19 at 3:17 pm to List Eater
on 2/10/19 at 3:17 pm to List EaterIt's February 10th and Dallas Keuchel doesn't have a job. Any thoughts on bringing him back? I think his contract demands will have been lowered since the beginning of the off season. The Wade Miley move would seem to signify we're out on Keuchel.
I'm somewhat torn on Keuchel. You'd probably have to assume 3-4 years and a minimum of $70 million (Rick Porcello got 4/82). If we bring him back, who's out? Josh James? Obviously hes unproven compared to Keuchel but I'm higher on James potential.
Keuchel is known commodity. Hes projected at 200 innings and mid to high 3 ERA. Behind JV and Cole, he'll be an above average innings eater. The thing I most consider is the rotation beyond this year... JV is a free agent, Cole is a free agent (and likely the most sought after pitcher on the market), McHugh is a free agent. Is it worth the price to lock in an above average pitcher ahead of a potential rotation decimation in 2020?
I'm somewhat torn on Keuchel. You'd probably have to assume 3-4 years and a minimum of $70 million (Rick Porcello got 4/82). If we bring him back, who's out? Josh James? Obviously hes unproven compared to Keuchel but I'm higher on James potential.
Keuchel is known commodity. Hes projected at 200 innings and mid to high 3 ERA. Behind JV and Cole, he'll be an above average innings eater. The thing I most consider is the rotation beyond this year... JV is a free agent, Cole is a free agent (and likely the most sought after pitcher on the market), McHugh is a free agent. Is it worth the price to lock in an above average pitcher ahead of a potential rotation decimation in 2020?
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