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re: DAT Official Offseason Thread...RIP the A. Bregman years
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:02 am to wahoocs
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:02 am to wahoocs
Yep that’s why I’d prefer Suzuki I think in this.
Ig you could flip Framber for a big league outfielder but would have to go through some rosters to see what would make sense
Ig you could flip Framber for a big league outfielder but would have to go through some rosters to see what would make sense
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:14 am to wahoocs
Paredes has played plenty of 1B and Smith isn’t playing in the majors until 2026 at the earliest. You’re not going to make a neatly organized deal that fills all our needs. Get the most value you can.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Let's say it ends up being Paredes and Smith, and Bregman signs elsewhere. If they think they can dump Pressly, we should have plenty of money available to go after Walker. Not likely, but a possible scenario IMO. Do that, and your infield is pretty damn good and locked up for 3 years.
Depending on what you get from Chas and Melton, you have Smith as a trade chip if you need it for an OF.
Depending on what you get from Chas and Melton, you have Smith as a trade chip if you need it for an OF.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:22 am to Cliff Booth
I could see them pivoting to chasing Teoscar as well. Dealing Tucker and Pressly would free up a good bit of money
I am interested to see if they still pursue dealing Framber if they trade Tucker. My guess is no, but if they aren’t willing to pay around what Fried got, they should. Also don’t understand the logic that keeping Tucker is somehow tied to keeping Bregman
I am interested to see if they still pursue dealing Framber if they trade Tucker. My guess is no, but if they aren’t willing to pay around what Fried got, they should. Also don’t understand the logic that keeping Tucker is somehow tied to keeping Bregman
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:27 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Also don’t understand the logic that keeping Tucker is somehow tied to keeping Bregman
That all comes back to Crane being unwilling to give any appearance that this is a rebuild of any kind, IMO
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Should be just under 30 which would cover either of those and have enough left over for a depth starter or a bench bat. It's all doable. I feel myself starting to get a little too optimistic 
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:28 am to wahoocs
Yeah most likely. But if they keep losing Tuckers and Bregmans for just a comp pick they’re gonna have to do a full blown rebuild again. They have a chance to reset things and reshape the roster without doing that if they nail a couple of these trades (and he’s still willing to spend where has the past few years)
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:I’m all for trading La Grasa. If he wants something comparable to Fried, I don’t think the Astros should pay it. Would rather offload Pressly’s contract and then invest in some of the youth arms
I am interested to see if they still pursue dealing Framber if they trade Tucker. My guess is no, but if they aren’t willing to pay around what Fried got, they should
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Also don’t understand the logic that keeping Tucker is somehow tied to keeping Bregman
Hopefully it's just that they want to know what Bregman is doing so they know whether they have a hole at 3B or not. Maybe deciding between 2 different offers on Tucker and need to know which holes to fill.
Sounds more and more like our Bregman offer has turned out to be pretty competitive. Otherwise, no need to wait.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I often find myself conflicted over it, but I remind myself that letting guys like Springer and Correa walk are almost always the right moves.
Sign your stars to deals while you have control, but still allows them to sign long term elsewhere with some productive years left when your deal ends
This is the only way to compete outside of the LA and NY markets
Sign your stars to deals while you have control, but still allows them to sign long term elsewhere with some productive years left when your deal ends
This is the only way to compete outside of the LA and NY markets
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:44 am to wahoocs
And Suzuki not waiving a NTC to Houston, a team that has played in 7 out of 8 ALCS’s, presents a systemic issue we have been fortunate to overcome during this run
The draft and development is the only reliable way to sustain. And draft position is dependent on mostly failure. LOL
Fitting for this sport though, isn’t it?
The draft and development is the only reliable way to sustain. And draft position is dependent on mostly failure. LOL
Fitting for this sport though, isn’t it?
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:48 am to wahoocs
I am fine not signing Tucker to some 13 year/400 million dollar deal, but they need more than basically a third round pick back (same goes for Framber) if they truly want to “keep the window open”.
I’d do an iteration of that Chicago deal and stay after Bregman at the right price personally. If you keep him Paredes fills a big hole at 1B at a cheap cost and Smith has been playing pro ball for 6 months. No reason to overthink it.
I’d do an iteration of that Chicago deal and stay after Bregman at the right price personally. If you keep him Paredes fills a big hole at 1B at a cheap cost and Smith has been playing pro ball for 6 months. No reason to overthink it.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:02 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I honestly would like to see Bregman be Altuve and a career Astro
I’d like it if he put a value on his wife and family having stability at home and accepted a fair deal that ensured the best outcome for all
But you don’t hire Boras, and you don’t neglect your God given skills to hit to all fields with his command of the strike zone for power numbers in your contract year to wake up settling for anything less than the highest bid
I’d like it if he put a value on his wife and family having stability at home and accepted a fair deal that ensured the best outcome for all
But you don’t hire Boras, and you don’t neglect your God given skills to hit to all fields with his command of the strike zone for power numbers in your contract year to wake up settling for anything less than the highest bid
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:21 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I’d do an iteration of that Chicago deal and stay after Bregman at the right price personally. If you keep him Paredes fills a big hole at 1B at a cheap cost and Smith has been playing pro ball for 6 months. No reason to overthink it.
But do you pursue an OF at that point? I think you mentioned Teoscar a few posts back and I’d be thrilled with that. Yed needs to be a DH and I’ve argued that even with Tucker still on the team. And you really need two honestly. We cannot go into a season with Chas and Meyers as 2/3 of the starting OF. I can live with Chas as the third OF. If it’s a Teoscar caliber player + Chas, I would take a Ben Gamel level player over Meyers.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:28 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
I don’t think Crane would resign and Bregman and sign a Teoscar level player (probably 25 mil a year). Maybe if they manage to deal Pressly without eating much money. But you’re not going to deal Tucker and simultaneously fill all the holes they need to fill (unless you spend a bunch of money)
Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:29 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
Not Astros related, but woah
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 12/13/24 at 11:38 am to DalenSA
There’s obviously more to that deal
Cortes was already pretty much expendable
Cortes was already pretty much expendable
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:36 pm to Cliff Booth
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f they think they can dump Pressly, we should have plenty of money available to go after Walker.
Stros fans seem to be done with Pressly - do you think there's a team that will take him off your hands?
My sister-in-law is a huge Astros fan and went to a game where there was a free Pressly bobblehead upon entry and she said no thanks.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:56 pm to Tiger Ugly
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:03 pm to DalenSA
Heyman said the deal is getting close. Here we go.
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