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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:18 pm to
I think most of these deals are made knowing the tail-end is wasted and overpaid. On paper, the deal for Xander is 11/$280, but really the owner is thinking 6/$280... but they don't want to take the huge cap/tax hit of paying him $47million per year.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I think most of these deals are made knowing the tail-end is wasted and overpaid.


Absolutely.

The general rule of thumb is that 1 WAR is worth $8M on average. So Judge at $360M needs to produce 45 WAR for that deal to "break even" and he was over 10 WAR last season.

Of course the savvy teams find ways to get value for a lot cheaper.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:32 pm to
Also these big market teams are confident they will have big revenue in perpetuity. The luxury tax is not penal enough and they know it. 75% of teams are already eliminated and MLB is fine with that.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:57 pm to
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According to azcentral sports, the Astros are among the teams checking in with the Arizona Diamondbacks about the availability of their outfielders. Those outfielders include Daulton Varsho, Alek Thomas and Jake McCarthy



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:59 pm to
McCarthy is the most attainable and seems like the one that fits the best for us value wise. I’m guessing Varsho and Carroll are just not available unless something crazy is thrown on the table
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:03 pm to
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Varsho and Carroll are just not available unless something crazy is thrown on the table


It would take Hunter Brown... but if we could sign Bassitt and trade Brown for Carroll I would think about it.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:07 pm to
Prepare to be underwhelmed.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Prepare to be underwhelmed.
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Tucker Barnhart
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 3:27 pm to
Well... yeah.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 4:08 pm to
I mentioned Alek Thomas before the deadline. Fits as the lefty platoon outfielder who can play CF. I'd assume he'd be the cheapest in a trade.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 4:11 pm to
He struggled last year but was still a big time prospect. Also 3 years younger than McCarthy. They are probably pretty close to each other value wise
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 6:09 pm to
I can see that with the age difference evening it out.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 6:16 pm to
I know Carroll’s mom

That’s all I got. LOL
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4655 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:01 pm to
Brandon Nimmo getting 8 years/$162MM from Mets. Congrats. I guess.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:03 pm to
So we’re getting no one else of any consequence.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:12 pm to
Brantley, baw. Mr. Professional Hitter.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:14 pm to
I want Jake McCarthy
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24903 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:14 pm to
Abreu is a big deal

If Brantley comes back before the playoffs, it might be unanswered prayers
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:21 pm to
all the crazy deals , all the long-term huge numbers

and if the Astros get a C /CF it could be the best off season for the Astros compared both to the MLB and Club history
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