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Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:57 pm to
Haven't really seen him the past couple years. Has he be hurt? Has he fallen off since 2020?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by Rjlebla
Houma
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:50 pm to
I’m kind of intrigued by the earlier mention of a trade for ohtani. The idea of using him as another left handed power hitter in the lineup, something we desperately need, and also as a power pitcher. If JV leaves you can use ohtani and with our depth you can keep him fresh.

The obvious questions are what would it take to get him, what kind of deal could you get him to sign, the kind crane likes for 5 years or the massive 9 or 10 year deal that kills teams. Also, would he want to come to Houston. And lastly, do you only put him at DH or can you train him to play first base?

I don’t know. Maybe he’s not what we’re looking for. Maybe he’s too much of a unicorn.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:57 pm to
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The obvious questions are what would it take to get him,


Too much.

quote:

what kind of deal could you get him to sign, the kind crane likes for 5 years or the massive 9 or 10 year deal that kills teams.


The latter. And we probably wouldn't be able to sign him anyway. He's destined to be Dodger or Yankee.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:14 pm to
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I’m kind of intrigued by the earlier mention of a trade for ohtani. The idea of using him as another left handed power hitter in the lineup, something we desperately need, and also as a power pitcher. If JV leaves you can use ohtani and with our depth you can keep him fresh.


Ohtani would be an awesome get and the response from the baseball writers mafia would be epic.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37396 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:26 pm to
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Verlander is an entirely different discussion. What my comments are based on is the fact that with the tax implications surrounding his next deal, we will definitely know if all things being equal, he wants to truly be in Houston and how much he values that


The Astros also offer him depth to keep fresh between starts and skip starts whenever needed, and a WS quality bullpen and hitting to help him rack up more Ws

If he truly wants to make his way up the record books Houston is a great place to do it
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:57 pm to
Yes, agreed

So let’s see what happens

Rubber meets the road
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:16 pm to
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The obvious questions are what would it take to get him,


Too much.



The Athletic Dodgers writers put together a proposed trade package for Ohtani straight up and they come up with this

#26 MLB prospect Bobby Miller (Dodgers #2)
#41 MLB prospect Miguel Vargas (Dodgers #3)
#42 MLB prospect Michael Busch (Dodgers #4)
#66 MLB prospect Andy Pages (Dodgers #5)
#74 MLB prospect Ryan Pepiot (Dodgers #6)

Dodgers # 11 Landon Knack
Dodgers #14 Maddox Bruns

7 prospects, 5 of them top 100. For a guy who's a free agent after the season. We don't have that prospect capital to begin with but beyond that theres no Crane gives up the uber deal he'd require and Ohtani likely wouldn't resign with us anyway. He's destined for Chavez ravine one way or another
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:52 am to
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The Astros also offer him depth to keep fresh between starts and skip starts whenever needed, and a WS quality bullpen and hitting to help him rack up more Ws

If he truly wants to make his way up the record books Houston is a great place to do it


Also an extremely good defense. He needs a defense to get the wins he wants.

But in the end, it may just be money. I'm ok with that.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13021 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 10:13 am to
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The Athletic Dodgers writers put together a proposed trade package for Ohtani straight up and they come up with this #26 MLB prospect Bobby Miller (Dodgers #2) #41 MLB prospect Miguel Vargas (Dodgers #3) #42 MLB prospect Michael Busch (Dodgers #4) #66 MLB prospect Andy Pages (Dodgers #5) #74 MLB prospect Ryan Pepiot (Dodgers #6) Dodgers # 11 Landon Knack Dodgers #14 Maddox Bruns 7 prospects, 5 of them top 100. For a guy who's a free agent after the season.


There is no way that it will take that much for a rental Ohtani. If you’re getting 1.5 seasons for ohtani, then yes, he will pull a huge return.

But half a season. No way.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:48 pm to
Cody Bellinger is expected to be non tendered today. Yall interested?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:50 pm to
Nope
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104001 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Cody Bellinger is expected to be non tendered today. Yall interested?


Should give him a call... and ask him about that fly ball in game 2 of the 2017 World Series, would that have been a home run with roof closed?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24896 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 1:46 pm to
That fly ball may be his most recognized contribution

frick his dopehead self all the way to AAA
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Cody Bellinger

tPOS
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:28 pm to
frick that crybaby!
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32505 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Cody Bellinger


That pussy arse crybaby hypocrite can frick right the frick off.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60907 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:23 pm to
After the media dragging him through the mud to the point that most non-Astros fans hate him, Peter Gammons article in The Athletic today all but exonerates Altuve in the “cheating scandal”. We all already knew this, and it’s a little too late now, Pete.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9930 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:38 pm to
Gammons wasn’t as bad as others. Rosenthal, Olney, Drellich, Passan, McCullough and Carig, just to name a few, can rot in hell.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24896 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:10 pm to
Gammons is really the only guy I can say I have not had an issue with
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