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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition

Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:34 pm to
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He seems determined to keep us in the villian role


there is really nothing he can do about that. Altuve could cure cancer and the first sentence in Rosenthal's article would be about how he maybe had a buzzer during the FDA testing.

There is a lot of wishcasting about the astros demise over this.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:35 pm to
Not a good look for the Astros
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28671 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:37 pm to
Hopefully he goes and gets Stearns or Luhnow guy Sig
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Sig


my hot take is that this is already done.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:37 pm to
Sucks the Mets have a GM spot open cause that’s probably the most desirable job for any GM with the unlimited budget
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28671 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:39 pm to
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my hot take is that this is already done.


Let’s hope he isn’t dumb enough to basically fire his GM without putting feelers out already.

And Click has been at the GM meetings
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:43 pm to
The quote that Click was actually fired was a tweet from Bob Nightengale, who has long been close to Barry Bonds and Dusty Baker. So it’s easy to see who fed him that and it may not be true, especially the part about Click publicly airing grievances. I read the stories and no quote from Click appeared to be an airing of grievances.

And this is why I’ve never liked Baker. On top of being a bad manager with strategy and lineups, he’s always seemed two-faced. I’d watch my back if I’m the next GM.
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:49 pm to
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Can you fire someone not under contract?


If Click was at the GM meetings he must have been operating in some capacity, right? Maybe the contract wasn't up at the same time as the players.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102301 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:49 pm to
Won't shock me if Dusty has input on tje next Gm and wants some old school dinosaur who doesn't do any analytics computer game non sense
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:51 pm to
Dusty WILL have a say so on the next GM, unfortunately
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28671 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:51 pm to
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If Click was at the GM meetings he must have been operating in some capacity, right? Maybe the contract wasn't up at the same time as the players.


I think I read that his contract was basically auto renewing unless action was taken. The offer from Crane was a new contract for 1 year with more money
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40292 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:53 pm to
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If Click was at the GM meetings he must have been operating in some capacity, right? Maybe the contract wasn't up at the same time as the players.



cashman was there too with no contract. Seems like it is just an industry circle jerk session
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8375 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:57 pm to
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He's gonna frick around and get a reputation as a difficult meddling owner and nobody worth a damn is going to want to work for him. You can bet that in executive circles, theyre already talking about Dusty pulling an end around on Click to get Crane to veto a trade. No GM worth his salt is going to want to work in an environment where the field manager has the owners ear to dictate personnel operations.


Exactly this. This isn’t so much about Click as it is about how a basic org chart works. FODB is the de facto GM now.

I don’t think Click was any great shakes, but they weren’t bringing Springer back, they weren’t bringing Correa back. Not like he could do anything there. He made decent, not spectacular trades. And the ones this year were shite all over by Baker. Playing MM and YG over CV and TM at that time were objectively bad decisions regardless of the final outcome. And the one splash trade he had going was vetoed by that same assclown. I know that many people on here are glad that that one fell through, but it’s still not a good situation.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102301 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Dusty WILL have a say so on the next GM, unfortunately


Which absolutely should not be the case. Dusty is here for a year or two more. He shouldn't dictate long term operational decisions of the franchise.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Dusty WILL have a say so on the next GM, unfortunately



But why...
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:02 pm to
No.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102301 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:04 pm to
Stearns is still under contract through 2023 so Milwaukee will require compensation.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24895 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:05 pm to
Man, flash back when Luhnow was hired and we fired all of our scouts

The old school regime had pitchforks and torches

This ain’t no big deal

Hell, we have Dusty and Reggie and the media is still the media

We’ll be fine
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:38 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84294 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:46 pm to
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@michaelschwab13

A name to watch for the Astros, Scott Sharp from the Royals.

He is Sr. Vice President/Assistant GM for KC.
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