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re: DAT 8/23: A’s (Basso) @ Astros (Javier) - 1:10 CT

Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:43 am to
Told my friends yesterday that losing series to the As and Angels this late in the season should be a fireable offense for the entire front office and coaching staff.
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:49 am to
That aged well!!!
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102452 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:01 am to
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Wonder if Joe would have gotten the axe too if not for his family emergency.


Won't surprise me if he just doesn't come back from whatever is going on. 30 games left. He's a lame duck on an expiring contract and almost certainly won't be resigned.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:04 am to
Bagwell is back!
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
31934 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:11 am to
It is nut cuttin time, makes sense to get the grit your teeth and be a dirtbag guy back in the mix for the stretch run
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10116 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:15 am to
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Bagwell is back


He never left. That’s part of the problem.

Jeff Luhnow’s biggest accomplishment may have been keeping Crane’s nose out of everything for as long as he did.
This post was edited on 8/24/26 at 9:17 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:15 am to
At least make him manger for the laughs
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71191 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:18 am to
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Bagwell and Crane


Part of the problem as well
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:19 am to
I have made bank for 2 years taking A’s ML against astros
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
29196 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:35 am to
I don't understand making a change now unless you have someone lined up to take over immediately.

And no, I'm not talking about Jeff Bagwell or Crane
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13111 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:41 am to
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Dana is out


Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8911 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:07 am to
I have no issue with Dana getting the heave ho, but do any of our esteemed group here have any confidence that this owner and his minions will set this in the right direction?

It was mentioned in one of the threads last week there shouldn’t be calls to sell at the first sign of trouble. The thing is, this isn’t the first sign of trouble. The organization has been on a gradual decline since 2022. Perhaps that would’ve happened no matter what. But the moves (or non moves) made correlate pretty closely with the decline.

Naming a field manager before a GM was even named. (Pre 2022)
Letting the GM walk immediately after winning a World Series
Hiring an unqualified guy to be field manager
Having a buffoon with stone age thinking as a major advisor to the owner on baseball matters
Undermining two different GMs trying to make personnel moves
Not addressing a shitshow outfield situation for four years running now
Refusal to be real players in the free agent market. Not saying we have to be the Dodgers but other than Hader, we’re never in on anyone major.
Depending on injured players coming back as a strategy for not making trades
Promoting from within to fix the medical staff situation which was a league wide joke
Firing the two shitty hitting coaches only to hire someone with a very similar philosophy

I’m sure I’ve missed some. But the trend is real.

Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10116 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:07 am to
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I don't understand making a change now unless you have someone lined up to take over immediately.


Tangibly, not much of a reason. Done more for PR after a 3-6 homestand against the murderers’ row of Mariners, Angels and A’s capped by blowing a 6-0 lead yesterday.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:07 am to
Zero confidence in anything changing as long as crane stays at the controls.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
29196 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:14 am to
The wheels were off after the scandal. (Yes we went on to win a WS, but the signs were there) Crane got embarrassed, doesn't want to get embarrassed again, so now he's Jerry Jones.

As long as he is central to the decision making process of baseball operations, this team is going absolutely nowhere unless we magically turn some AAAA prospects into the equivalent of the 2017-2022 core.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13111 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:15 am to
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Zero confidence in anything changing as long as crane stays at the controls.


Yup.

Elon needs a new toy.

Buy the Astros.

Name the ball park Field-X.
Send Orbit up in space for a day, make him a true Space Traveler.

Tell MLB's luxury tax rules to frick right off.
outspend Dodgers and Yankees combined.


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125082 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:49 am to
I don’t disagree with the trend. And yet the down years are going to end up being a division title and playoff berth, an 87 win season, and TBD on this one, but at least in playoff contention due to the shitty division.

People last year were jerking off to the Mariners management. The Mariners have what, four playoff appearances in 30 years? It can be far worse. The Rangers have had three winning seasons since 2012. The angels and A’s don’t even bother competing.

Would also add that these things can change on a dime. Houston sports fans were demanding the McNairs sell just 3 short off seasons ago. Now they’re arguably the most popular owners in town.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63747 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:21 am to
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I don't understand making a change now unless you have someone lined up to take over immediately.


Aside from the PR aspect you can begin vetting and talking to candidates in earnest which they weren’t going to do with Brown still under contract
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5085 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:23 am to
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Zero confidence in anything changing as long as crane stays at the controls.


My theory is this was one of the conditions after the 2017 controversy. May be wrong here but I thought Crane gave Luhnow an open field to operate with complete autonomy across the organization when he hired him. As terms to back off the investigation MLB may have required Crane to be more involved / implement more governance and what we see now is a side effect of that
This post was edited on 8/24/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63747 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:24 am to
It’s understandable to be frustrated with Crane, but the first 8 or whatever years of his tenure were the best run pro sports organization I’ve ever followed. I’m not sure if he has it in him to go back to running things that way, but he’s done it once, which is more than you can say for most all major sports owners
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