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re: DAT: 2020/2021 Offseason Thread
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:12 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:12 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:15 am to 5 Deep
Correct, I think his mom ended up passing away in August or September
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:21 am to TomBuchanan
quote:
Dustin May's hair
No one wants to see this. No one. Not even Dodgers fans, probably.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:35 am to 5 Deep
In Joe Smith's defense, he had also been cheerleading pretty hard on social media for the stros throughout the year
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:37 am to Topo Chico
I completely understand why he opted out. Also he’s under contract for like 4 mil and has been pretty good in the past so it’s at least one cheap competent reliever addition we should be getting
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:49 am to TomBuchanan
quote:
Douchebag
Yep. He has no issue with Mookie or Chuck Salt having played for teams that were punished for sign stealing.
No other players or media have issues with Keuchel, Marwin, Kemp, Harris, etc or anyone else who has left.
Springer will be one of the most coveted free agents out there. I mean we had the Boston bitch on here yesterday jacking himself off because the cheaters lost, yet in the next breath he’s hoping Springer signs with the Red Sox. That shitposting Cubs pussy was dogging Correa but I guarantee would trade anyone on the Cubs roster for him and be the first one in line to buy a jersey.
Cora and Hinch are rumored to be strong candidates for other jobs in 2021.
It reaks of hypocrisy. Why aren’t we seeing stories like “Teams Reluctant To Sign Former Astros?” Why aren’t we seeing these holier than thou sportswriters chastising teams for even thinking about it? Just like “Chapman ok/Osuna not ok”
frick them all.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:22 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Current 40-Man Roster:
Catchers:
Maldonado - Under contract for 2021
Garneau - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Stubbs - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Infielders:
Altuve - Under contract through 2024
Bregman - Under contract through 2024
Correa - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
Gurriel - Under contract through 2021, team option for 2022
Diaz - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2023
Toro - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Mayfield - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Jones - Still has rookie status
Outfielders:
Tucker - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Straw - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
McCormick - Still has rookie status
DH:
Alvarez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Starting Pitchers:
Verlander - Under contract for 2021, unlikley to pitch in 2021
Greinke - Under contract for 2021
McCullers - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
Urquidy - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Valdez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2026
Javier - Still has rookie status
Garcia - Still has rookie status
Relief Pitchers:
Abreu - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Armenteros - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Bailey - Still has rookie status
Bielak - Still has rookie status
Castellanos - Still has rookie status
De Jong - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Devenski - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
James - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Osuna - Under contract for 2021, unlikley to pitch in 2021
Paredes - Still has rookie status
Perez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Pressly - Under contract for 2021, option for 2022
Pruitt - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Raley - Still has rookie status
Rodriguez - Still has rookie status
Sanabria - Still has rookie status
Scrubb - Still has rookie status
Smith - Under contract for 2021 or 2022, unsure if 2020 opt out counted against his 2 years?
Sneed - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Taylor - Still has rookie status
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Bradley
Peacock
Reddick
Springer
Catchers:
Maldonado - Under contract for 2021
Garneau - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Stubbs - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Infielders:
Altuve - Under contract through 2024
Bregman - Under contract through 2024
Correa - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
Gurriel - Under contract through 2021, team option for 2022
Diaz - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2023
Toro - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Mayfield - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Jones - Still has rookie status
Outfielders:
Tucker - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Straw - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
McCormick - Still has rookie status
DH:
Alvarez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Starting Pitchers:
Verlander - Under contract for 2021, unlikley to pitch in 2021
Greinke - Under contract for 2021
McCullers - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
Urquidy - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Valdez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2026
Javier - Still has rookie status
Garcia - Still has rookie status
Relief Pitchers:
Abreu - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Armenteros - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Bailey - Still has rookie status
Bielak - Still has rookie status
Castellanos - Still has rookie status
De Jong - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Devenski - Arbitration in 2021, UFA in 2022
James - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Osuna - Under contract for 2021, unlikley to pitch in 2021
Paredes - Still has rookie status
Perez - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Pressly - Under contract for 2021, option for 2022
Pruitt - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2022, UFA in 2025
Raley - Still has rookie status
Rodriguez - Still has rookie status
Sanabria - Still has rookie status
Scrubb - Still has rookie status
Smith - Under contract for 2021 or 2022, unsure if 2020 opt out counted against his 2 years?
Sneed - Under team control for 2021, arbitration in 2023, UFA in 2026
Taylor - Still has rookie status
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Bradley
Peacock
Reddick
Springer
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:36 pm to LSUBoo
Good stuff... I don't see them paying Devo, and I don't know anything about Pruitt's health so I'm leaving him out for now. I see this as their 8 man pen as it stands:
Pressly
Taylor (L)
Paredes
Smith
Raley (L)
James
Scrubb
Sneed
Gotta add 3 arms right? One needs to be an experienced late inning guy IMO. My liver can't handle 9th inning Pressly.
Pressly
Taylor (L)
Paredes
Smith
Raley (L)
James
Scrubb
Sneed
Gotta add 3 arms right? One needs to be an experienced late inning guy IMO. My liver can't handle 9th inning Pressly.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:13 pm to Drew Brews
Adding a 9th inning guy would be big.
Adding a 5th starter moves Javier to the bullpen and he could be a great setup option along with Paredes and Pressly.
ETA: Garcia is a question mark... I can see them putting him back to the minors to get more experience starting rather than having him languish in the bullpen.
Adding a 5th starter moves Javier to the bullpen and he could be a great setup option along with Paredes and Pressly.
ETA: Garcia is a question mark... I can see them putting him back to the minors to get more experience starting rather than having him languish in the bullpen.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:20 pm to LSUBoo
Yeah, same thing I thought about Garcia. He's a better option than Sneed, but he's better off getting seasoned in RR than coming in during blowouts.
I like Javier in the bullpen, just seems like those fringe starters can be expensive compared to bullpen guys. I'd love it for the right price. I know Gausman has been mentioned. That'd be great.
I like Javier in the bullpen, just seems like those fringe starters can be expensive compared to bullpen guys. I'd love it for the right price. I know Gausman has been mentioned. That'd be great.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:23 pm to LSUBoo
I’d much rather see Garcia still develop as a starter and he could be some depth on that front when injuries happen. Realistically you need at least 8 or so guys you trust starting games in a 162 game season these days with the injuries which is why I think they should definitely be in the market for at least one guy in FA. I’d like to see Javier in the Peacock role as a fringe starter/long reliever if everyone is healthy.
Great summary on the 40 man above and I’ll probably add that to my first post
Great summary on the 40 man above and I’ll probably add that to my first post
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 4:47 pm to LSUBoo
quote:
According to an MLS source former #Astros GM Jeff Luhnow (@jluhnow) and Alex Rodriguez (@AROD) approached @houstondynamo ownership about their interest in purchasing the franchise, but nothing developed.
This would’ve been awesome
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:38 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Probably needs some updates as well. I think Javier passed the rookie threshold.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:58 pm to 5 Deep
quote:
Astros GM Jeff Luhnow (@jluhnow)
quote:
approached @houston
I can confirm Via sources that he has no massive grudge against the stros.
We need to bring the boy home where he belongs.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:03 pm to Adam Banks
He will never work in this town again.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:35 pm to 5 Deep
Nothing personal with Joe Smith, and he did a mostly good job to my recollection.
But I don’t see his opt out any differently than David Price or Andrelton Simmons.
I’ve seen the story on his relationship with his mother, sorry to hear she passed. Taking the season off to have sex w Allie LaForce, while grieving for your mother is admirable.
But it also tells me I don’t need the money and winning a championship with my teammates when their window of opportunity is closing just isn’t that important to me.
His teammates probably didn’t see it that way. Hell, truth be known, they might mostly have felt the same
way he did during the regular season, but I saw some collective effort in the playoffs.
I look at David Price, and I think of Manny Machado hitting singles off the OF wall. Simmons left the Angels with like 5 games left in the season, when they were only 3 games out of a playoff spot.
But I don’t see his opt out any differently than David Price or Andrelton Simmons.
I’ve seen the story on his relationship with his mother, sorry to hear she passed. Taking the season off to have sex w Allie LaForce, while grieving for your mother is admirable.
But it also tells me I don’t need the money and winning a championship with my teammates when their window of opportunity is closing just isn’t that important to me.
His teammates probably didn’t see it that way. Hell, truth be known, they might mostly have felt the same
way he did during the regular season, but I saw some collective effort in the playoffs.
I look at David Price, and I think of Manny Machado hitting singles off the OF wall. Simmons left the Angels with like 5 games left in the season, when they were only 3 games out of a playoff spot.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:29 pm to Falco
quote:
OF will be a concern but I wouldn't mind signing Profar as he was pretty good last year with the Padres and has some position versatility.
Don't be surprised if that's exactly who they sign.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:26 am to Jwho77
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:53 am to Jwho77
Profar would be a good addition, he can play basically anywhere and has been above league average at the plate two of the last three seasons.
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