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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:22 pm to
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 an upgrade from Gregerson 


An upgrade from 2017 Gregorson for sure. 15 and 16 Gregorson was low 3s era and I'm not confident Smith is that pitcher anymore. I'm thinking he'll be the frustrating 3.50 Era kinda RP prone to random blow ups.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:32 pm to
He struck out a ton of hitters last year and walked very few. If we can get him to continue that trend it will be a very good signing
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5359 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:29 pm to
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He struck out a ton of hitters last year and walked very few. If we can get him to continue that trend it will be a very good signing


And had a 3.4 era with those improved stats. What happens if those numbers go back to his career norms? Isn’t he 34? Im not convinced a 34 yo all of a sudden becomes an 11 k/9 pitcher when he’s never been a strikeout guy. We needed a bullpen guy and he I don’t think he’ll pitch crunch time innings, so I’m ok with the signing. It’s just more meh for me. Good news is that he has never has an era higher than the mid 3s for a season, so at least there is a history of consistency
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:04 pm to
Yep. He's basically Qualls.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Stros going for the hottest wives championship too, I see.




Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:25 am to
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Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:28 am to
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Brett Wallace.



Quite possibly the ugliest dude to ever play for the Astros, or anyone else for that matter. (not that I go around noticing things like that)(not that there would be anything wrong with that)

Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:35 am to
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Quite possibly the ugliest dude to ever play for the Astros,



Ezequiel Astacio. His face looked like it had been pelted with a bunch of flaming marbles
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40360 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:44 am to
Willy t was pretty nappy when he entered the league
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:58 am to
I hope he makes the opening day roster just because it would be cool for him to make it as a pitcher. shite, he’s probably better than Sipp.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:58 am to
GO WHERE WILLY T GO, GUYO FORD
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108348 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:05 am to
We know
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37933 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:16 am to
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Ezequiel Astacio. His face looked like it had been pelted with a bunch of flaming marbles


Well, maybe Wallace gets the award for "ugliest Caucasian dude to ever play for the Astros"
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24963 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:53 am to
The ugliest thing about Wallace was his swing as it related to contact.

That man made Chris Carter and Jason Castro look like Andre Dawson and Boog Powell.

I swear I remember BW striking out 20 out of 21 ABs.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:38 pm to
Article on Joe Smith-Laforce

LINK

Of note

quote:

Last season, Joe Smith was lethal against right-handed batters. He struck out 47 of the 137 right-handers he faced while walking just two all season. Among pitchers with at least 20 innings, Smith’s 1.56 FIP versus right-handers trailed only Kenley Jansen, Craig Kimbrel, and Max Scherzer‘s.


Her thoughts

Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:23 am to
Hector Rondon to the Stros per Rosenthal
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24963 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:28 am to
Tell me how to feel about that
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:32 am to
I wonder what they envision his role to be. If they send Musgrove down in favor of Rondon, I'll be pissed.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:34 am to
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Tell me how to feel about that

Meh. Taking a chance on a guy who was really good in 2014-2015 then developed a HR problem in 2016 and added a walk problem last year.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104047 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:36 am to
If Rondon can limit the long ball like he did in 2014 and 2015 then he can be a really good reliever.

If he's going to give up 1.6 HR/9 and 3.1 BB/9 like he did last season, that's not worth much.

He also significantly increased his K/9 in 2016 and 2017 despite his ERA going up both years... not sure if there's a connection there. Maybe going after too many Ks and less pitching to contact led to the walks and homers?
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