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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:10 pm to
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Flyball Fiers makes perfect sense for a club like the Giants or Padres.


Yeah I can see them possibly making a trade with us.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:25 pm to
I agree. I think he would go well as a backend guy there or in KC
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:26 pm to
I want Carlos Santana in this lineup. MLBTR predicts 3 years $45 million. Another prediction I saw was 4 years $62 million. A guy who takes 90-100 walks and hits 20+ homers.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
San Diego would probably be the most ideal fit for Fiers. He's cost controlled and at the very least he can eat innings. But that's a big ballpark and the ball doesn't carry a ton at night out there. He could find some success there.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:04 pm to
He also never strikes out and has improved a lot at 1B. He will be a fantastic addition to someone's lineup I just don't think it will be ours. He would fit well for almost any AL team though
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:08 pm to
I can dream can't I? I expect some regression back to the pack but imagine this group with Santana at DH instead of Beltran. That'd be fun. But you're probably right. It won't be our lineup. Gattis back to DH makes more sense than anything.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:12 pm to
Oh absolutely. It's not my money, I hope we spend it on him, I've always liked him. I don't think it's the money this year that would be the biggest issue, it's that the length would likely cross into extensions we might have coming up.

I think he goes to NY and would wreck there
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24963 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 pm to
There may not have been a more important contribution to a World Series winning team from a player not included on the roster than Fiers for Houston in the history of the game.

Part of the winning model from here forward may include keeping your starters innings down as you cycle them through the DL. We don't need to be involved in the starters market, but I'm not sure we're necessarily sitting with a surplus of them either.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:14 pm to
If it was the 3/45 deal that MLBTR projects, I think we could swing that no big deal. That number does seem om the low end to me though.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102331 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:17 pm to
This team was a prime example of the importance of depth at starting pitcher. Fiers and Peacock were after thoughts at different points during the season and both ended up stepping up and carrying us at times. And then of course the starters in the pen in the post season.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:18 pm to
Yeah a 3 year deal might be doable. And the market always seems softer than expected on DH/AL only types though he's playable at 1B now.

Guys who hit 25-30 home runs with an even K/BB ratio don't grow on trees though he would be my dream scenario bat to add to our lineup honestly
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:19 pm to
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I think he goes to NY and would wreck there

nope
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63413 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:28 pm to
Santana would be a huge upgrade over Bird IMO
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:32 pm to
Disagree, I think a full season of healthy Bird we will see more of what we saw in the playoffs, someone hitting around .250-.270 with 20 home run power and the ability to get on base. Now of course if Bird is injured all year again that changes
Posted by LSUcrawfish
St George,Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:39 pm to
Is there any way we can get cox to carry Astros games next year?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:43 pm to
Nope
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:45 pm to
I wouldn’t be opposed to Santana if it didn’t make signing our studs more difficult financially, but we have a position player logjam so I just can’t see it happening
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28787 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:46 pm to
Nice article about the hiring of Strom and what it meant for the franchise

LINK
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5359 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:54 pm to
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Bird


A lot of people thought his power output in his brief time up in 2015 was unsustainable (11 hrs in 160ish Abs). No one is really mentioning that he was pretty close to that same pace again this season despite that ridiculously bad start. Think he had 1 hr after the first month while playing with the hurt ankle. His end of year numbers ended up being 9 HRs in 150ish ABs.

I think his power is going to play up as long as his home stadium is the Bronx. 30+ HRs with a decent glove at 1st.

After one of the playoff games that Bird homered in this season, a reporter asked Judge if he was surprised with Birds hitting. Judge replied something like no because Bird is the best hitter on the team when healthy.

Yanks will be OK with him if he can beat that injury bug.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:01 pm to
I like that core

Bird (25)
Sanchez (24)
Castro (27)
Didi (27)
Judge (25)
Hicks (27)
Frazier (22)
Andujar (22)

SP:
Severino (23)
Tanaka (28)
Montgomery (24)
Gray (27)
Cessa (25)
Smith (25)

RP:
Holder (24)
Mitchell (25)
Khanle (27)
Robertson (32)
Green (26)
Shreve (26)
Warren (29)
Betances (29)
Chapman (29)
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